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pjedilord Jun 21, 2024 @ 2:58pm
Fallout 4 Institute Preeminence Or Bos Ascendancy?
Institute have controlling influence in commonw with their spy birds cams
Dcity control, their dominance of synths wining vast battles in commonw.
Bos dont seem to have so, only collecting and having battles in commonw.
But they dont have many troops in battle like Institute.

So maybe it's right that Institute have ascendancy than Bos?
Institute have vast forces limitless best tech, while Bos has limited forces.
Bos collects hordes junk tech only using their best tech for prime power armor?
Blimp to. Why Institute did not blast blimp? or teleport there to destroy kill max?

Institute G1 synths have poor weapons why? why coursers have better, so this
means Institute expects their g1 synths to die quite much and dont want to
give them expensive weapons? But if their make their weapons from machine
Does it not cost?

Institute are there to stay they have preeminence they are excellently of
any faction in Fallout games? Bos can only win with SS support.

Institute knows well raiders gunners mutants etc attack Bos, weakening their
forces, conducted by Institute? they have the caps to pay gunners to attack Bos?
Making final battle simple for Institute.
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Zekiran Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
When you do the institute's ending - or the rr's or in fact the mm's - you blow the blimp up.
Preeminence and ascendancy, wow, those are big words, and spelled correctly as well.
Progress is being made, albeit very slowly.
Zekiran Jun 22, 2024 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by 🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾:
Preeminence and ascendancy, wow, those are big words, and spelled correctly as well.
Progress is being made, albeit very slowly.

Yeah except that normal people don't USE them. But ... scraping university papers might.
PeaceMaker Jun 22, 2024 @ 1:38am 
He's worn me out... I have no answers.
Mr. Bufferlow Jun 22, 2024 @ 4:14am 
I am not sure you can make the case that the Institute has vast forces limitless best tech. They only have one location in the region, (large but not much bigger than BOS) and while you could argue given enough time they can just keep reproducing new tech, that was Germany's downfall in WWII. I never saw any indications the Institute could quickly ramp up production. If they could have gone undetected for a few more decades- maybe.

Since the SS pretty much can wipe them out without any extra help, I would not call their forces limitless or vast unless you say they can take thirty years, really expand their operations (without drawing attention). Their best hold card is you can never be sure they are completely wiped out because some of their operatives are essentially impossible to detect.

It is a fantasy story where you decide which faction(s) "win"- whatever that means. It is interesting that as AI and robots get more complex in real life, the institute feels less and less fantasy like.
wtiger27 Jun 22, 2024 @ 5:37am 
The Institute is no match for Liberty Prime. I really enjoy doing the Quest with BOS to wipe out the Institute. My favorite.
pjedilord Jun 22, 2024 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
When you do the institute's ending - or the rr's or in fact the mm's - you blow the blimp up.


Originally posted by Pookie101:
Good points about the Institute attacking the BOS by paying the Gunners and raiders to attack them. I hadn't even thought of that myself.

The Gen 1's and 2's are designed to over come an enemy with numbers. The institute laser weapons are good enough for the job and not too advanced that it would give an enemy an advantage when they get one.

Actually I think Big Mountain would be the one faction that has the Institute beaten for technology.

The BOS airships are bad designs. Very reminiscent of the airships used pre 1920's which didn't take into account aerodynamics.

There actually were three airship aircraft carriers built. The first was the 23r in 1917 that is pretty clearly where the game design comes from and carried biplanes externally. The other two were the USS Macon and USS Akron which carried the aircraft inside.

I adore airships :D


Originally posted by Mr. Bufferlow:
I am not sure you can make the case that the Institute has vast forces limitless best tech. They only have one location in the region, (large but not much bigger than BOS) and while you could argue given enough time they can just keep reproducing new tech, that was Germany's downfall in WWII. I never saw any indications the Institute could quickly ramp up production. If they could have gone undetected for a few more decades- maybe.

Since the SS pretty much can wipe them out without any extra help, I would not call their forces limitless or vast unless you say they can take thirty years, really expand their operations (without drawing attention). Their best hold card is you can never be sure they are completely wiped out because some of their operatives are essentially impossible to detect.

It is a fantasy story where you decide which faction(s) "win"- whatever that means. It is interesting that as AI and robots get more complex in real life, the institute feels less and less fantasy like.


Originally posted by wtiger27:
The Institute is no match for Liberty Prime. I really enjoy doing the Quest with BOS to wipe out the Institute. My favorite.







Did Bos have preeminence or ascendancy in Fallout games? MM did not destroy blimp.
FafnirChaos Jun 22, 2024 @ 4:40pm 
Wow you have A LOT of questions in your original post - Which one is most important to you - as I'm sure all the rest of them will answer themselves.

Also time and place - using big words means nothing - unless of course your having a conversation in an Oxford study hall. Using them here is kind of pointless, as your just alienating yourself - There's no high society steam forum poster - All we have on steam is regular posters and trolls.

Edit; This has to be the most frustrating thing I've ever read - After re-reading it, what you've done is the equivalent of putting a few new parts on a broken down rusted engine and still thought it was going to work. - I'm sorry if you think that's insulting - But your post has like 3 stressful things going on - 1 Is the questions - 2 is sentence structure, you keep going on - and 3 is your implementation of bigger words.
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Zekiran Jun 22, 2024 @ 6:27pm 
Dude, it's a person using a very very shaky translation AI and embellishing their posts using words they "almost" understand. That's why I choose ONE thing, rather than trying to address more than one. They never actually learn from it. Since they have yet to actually seem to have played the game in recent memory. If they ever have.
pjedilord Jun 23, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
When Bos lose troops thats it, they dead and cant be replace easy?
Zekiran Jun 23, 2024 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
When Bos lose troops thats it, they dead and cant be replace easy?
Unless they start recruiting, which they aren't supposed to do, but who even knows any more. Lore for the Brotherhood changes every time you turn around.
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