Nuka grenade launcher?

[Saobie]

Iv done the Suggs quest and gotten the grenade launcher, sawblade launcher, and nailgun. I looked up the quest and it seems you can get a launcher that launches nuka grenades or something like that? So im asking if its possible to get this ingame still

If not, does someone have the item id for the launcher so i can just spawn it

[DouglasGrave]

While there is a fat man launcher modification that comes in a nuka variety, that's from the Nuka World DLC, rather than something added by the Makeshift Weapons Pack (which is the part with Suggs and the "When Pigs Fly" quest).

Marvin (the guy Suggs sends you after) instead carries a fat man with a piggy bank modifier, and finishing the quest should also give you the ability to craft this modification yourself.

[Saobie]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

While there is a fat man launcher modification that comes in a nuka variety, that's from the Nuka World DLC, rather than something added by the Makeshift Weapons Pack (which is the part with Suggs and the "When Pigs Fly" quest).

Marvin (the guy Suggs sends you after) instead carries a fat man with a piggy bank modifier, and finishing the quest should also give you the ability to craft this modification yourself.

I do believe i have the fatman piggy bank launcher. But iv looked up the quest, and the quest says killing suggs instead of giving him the schematics gets you a different grenade launcher which shoots 40mm nuka instead of 40mm frag

Im also finding out that, according to the ammo id page, there are a number of different grenade launcher ammo types. But i dont know how to switch between them

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Saobie:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

While there is a fat man launcher modification that comes in a nuka variety, that's from the Nuka World DLC, rather than something added by the Makeshift Weapons Pack (which is the part with Suggs and the "When Pigs Fly" quest).

Marvin (the guy Suggs sends you after) instead carries a fat man with a piggy bank modifier, and finishing the quest should also give you the ability to craft this modification yourself.

I do believe i have the fatman piggy bank launcher. But iv looked up the quest, and the quest says killing suggs instead of giving him the schematics gets you a different grenade launcher which shoots 40mm nuka instead of 40mm frag

Im also finding out that, according to the ammo id page, there are a number of different grenade launcher ammo types. But i dont know how to switch between them

It also says you have to kill Suggs for that, so did you do so?

As for spawning it with console commands, that can get complicated with legendary items because the legendary part just counts as a mod part, so the item isn't always just a base weapon on its own that you can produce with a single command.

EDIT: You can always try searching for it with the help command of course, since if it does come in a premade form that you can spawn directly, you might be able to find it that way.

[Saobie]

No, i did not kill Snuggs, but i was curious if going back and killing him later would still give me the drop

Ill do some poking with console commands then, im more interested in the fact that there seems to be all kinds of grenade launcher ammo types, so im interested in how to use them. Iv seen talk of a receiver mod but i have no such mods

[The Inept European]

You only get Flakker, the Nuka Grenade launcher, if you kill Suggs. It's a binary choice. He either gifts you the legendary Penetrating Chinese GL as a quest reward or you kill him and get Flakker.

(I wrote the wiki article BTW)

[The Inept European]

The Piggy Bank Bomb Launcher is a distinct (also unique) weapon, it is always available and is looted from Matvin.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

You only get Flakker, the Nuka Grenade launcher, if you kill Suggs. It's a binary choice. He either gifts you the legendary Penetrating Chinese GL as a quest reward or you kill him and get Flakker.

(I wrote the wiki article BTW)

Personally, it feels like a worse option than having a living merchant and a legendary weapon, but I suppose it depends on which effect you prefer.

Originally posted by The Inept European:

The Piggy Bank Bomb Launcher is a distinct (also unique) weapon, it is always available and is looted from Matvin.

It's actually a mod part for the fat man, rather than unique. You should have gained the ability to craft it yourself upon completing the quest.

[The Inept European]

Yes that's correct Douglas.

[The Inept European]

As to the other (40mm grenade) ammo types, as is the typical Fallout 4 pattern, each ammo type is tied to a receiver type. The game data includes the ammo types and receiver types. However there is no pathway to any of the ammo or receiver types other than the 40mm frag. The ammo is not in vendor tables or loot tables and neither the ammo or receivers are craftable. I have not verified that the modcolls won't spawn any of the alternate ammo receivers (ie in loot or at vendors) but I suspect that's the case. If the receivers did spawn on an NPC (not at a vendor) they might come with some ammo. But I don't believe they do.

My mod Makeshift Weapons Ammo Pack provides crafting for all the new ammo types that aren't locked, and may at a later date unlock the other locked 40mm receivers and ammo types. However there is a huge balancing exercise to perform on these locked ammo types, which I suspect is why they weren't released as part of Next Gen. Next Gen already had a terribly detrimental effect on weapon and armour balance and progression in the game. Unlocking the other 40mm ammo types would have been much worse.

Basically vanilla now feels like a modded game, modded by a kid who just wants a zero challenge power trip. Meh.

Here's my mod anyway.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/4329726622428242295/

[The Inept European]

And Douglas I strongly agree I'd rather have a live trader - who sells more of the new weapons and their ammo than the rest of the weapons dealers combined - than a dead trader and a pointlessly OP weapon that I need to schlep to Nuka World to find ammo for.

Crime Does Not Pay, kids.

[The Inept European]

To clarify it is not possible to obtain Flakker once the quest is over. The quest ends either with you getting Flakker (Suggs dead) or getting the Penetrating GL (give Suggs schematics). Once the quest is over there is no way to obtain the other weapon, as only the quest can award either weapon.

Also I haven't verified this but I believe if you kill Suggs, the other weapons vendors don't get list injected with the new weapons and ammo. So Crime Really Does Not Pay.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by Saobie:

I do believe i have the fatman piggy bank launcher. But iv looked up the quest, and the quest says killing suggs instead of giving him the schematics gets you a different grenade launcher which shoots 40mm nuka instead of 40mm frag

Im also finding out that, according to the ammo id page, there are a number of different grenade launcher ammo types. But i dont know how to switch between them

It also says you have to kill Suggs for that, so did you do so?

As for spawning it with console commands, that can get complicated with legendary items because the legendary part just counts as a mod part, so the item isn't always just a base weapon on its own that you can produce with a single command.

EDIT: You can always try searching for it with the help command of course, since if it does come in a premade form that you can spawn directly, you might be able to find it that way.

And the Nuka World one is far superior anyway to any other launcher. Not hard to get the ammo, as you can craft it and the damage is insane. My char right now in this run, is level 36 and the damage of the Nuka World Mini Nuke Launcher is close to 1200.

I do have 2 ranks in Explosive Perk, but none in Heavy Weapons.

[The Inept European]

Spawning the extra 40mm receivers and their ammo types with console commands will probably work fine. Trying to spawn the legendary effect receivers, as Douglas said, is likely to have issues.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Spawning the extra 40mm receivers and their ammo types with console commands will probably work fine. Trying to spawn the legendary effect receivers, as Douglas said, is likely to have issues.

I'd have to check, but while the piggy bank fat man launcher is a mod part, the grenade launchers should just have legendary effects directly on the weapon.

[Saobie]

Yno, i have felt like virtually every enemy i come across is no significant threat to me, even with the myriad of mods i use specifically to make the game harder. Guess its time to reinstall global damage modifiers and just increase how much damage i take and decrease how much i deal. Its no fun when i oneshot basically everything so long as its not a pinky toe that i hit

With that in mind, and with the information given here, iv got my answer. I think i made the right call overall, the other weapons like nailgun and sawblade launcher are cool, and if the nukanade launcher is really that op i probably wouldnt have had much fun with it

Thanks for your help everyone :3