Is DiMA good or bad?

[sigina ✝]

Is he really evil, or am I being manipulated into thinking he's innocent? Are his actions and words just part of his programming to deceive me? Or am I just being paranoid and missing his true nature? The more I interact with him, the more I doubt my own judgment. This uncertainty makes it hard to know what's real.

[PeaceMaker]

Now that's an interesting question. *Possible spoilers*

On the one hand his reasons make sense...from a certain point of view. But from another point of view he did a very bad thing for what he thought were the right reasons and to help himself cope with the guilt, he blocked the bad parts of what he did from his memory.

He's `the road to hell is paved with good intentions` kind of guy which usually means something really bad happened cos he wanted to make things better. The story of history and well-intentioned people everywhere.

[Zotliatlicor]

Wonderful that there exists a game that lead to thinking... must be a good, decent game :)

[Cor.]

Dima is Neutral.

[Lord Nighthawk]

Originally posted by Cor.:

Dima is Neutral.

You seem to be not that far into that dlc.....

[Cor.]

Originally posted by Lord Nighthawk:

Originally posted by Cor.:

Dima is Neutral.

You seem to be not that far into that dlc.....

Ive finished it.

Next.

[steventirey]

Considering Dima has murdered and replaced people, as well as stripped the identity from one of his own people (and then wiped his own memory so he wouldn't remember it - even Dima knew what he did was wrong) and is quite willing to do so again, he is not good. He even made plans to wipe out Far Harbor entirely should they ever find out what he did.

Dima cares about himself first, his own people second. Humans barely factor into it. He is willing to murder them. Willing to wipe out an entire town to cover up what he did to them. And while he does have the key to destroy the Children of Atom, he won't give it to them. The Children want to be destroyed by the blast. But Dima doesn't want to think about them being gone, despite the Children believing it is a good thing.

[Lord Nighthawk]

Originally posted by Cor.:

Ive finished it.

Next.

Great, then your definition of neutral differs hard from mine :)

[PeaceMaker]

If you guys noticed I never said he was neither good nor bad, cos the OP's question is very black and white and in reality, nothing is black and white.

If I was to be pushed to my PERSONAL view of him, Dima did a very, very BAD thing for what he thought was a genuine good reason for the many. After that he hid it from his mind cos he could not stand the guilt. The fact he felt guilty and he did not cause any further harm does show a good side.

However his serious crime still remained. and would've remained hidden forever. This was no small crime.

I'm afraid in my pov, this makes him bad, even if he felt it necesarry.

p.s. that said, once faced with his crime, he voluntarily will pay penance for it, which I guess makes him a good person again.

[Obi Hung Kenobi]

Wait so wiping out the entire atom faction is a good thing? The only reason I haven't is because I am trying to see what DIMA wants but if he is bad, then why listen to him? Just wipe out the entire ATOM people, or is there a peaceful way for them to co exist? I dont mind spoilers.

[SPIDERna]

Evil

[Djozar]

Only if you see things as "good vs evil|". Malevolent intent or benevolent intent has much more room for morals, values, ethics, etc. Good vs evil allows for no deviations aside from good or evil. Malevolent vs benevolent, you can have a good intention with a bad outcome. Stuff happens.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by Obi Hung Kenobi:

Wait so wiping out the entire atom faction is a good thing? The only reason I haven't is because I am trying to see what DIMA wants but if he is bad, then why listen to him? Just wipe out the entire ATOM people, or is there a peaceful way for them to co exist? I dont mind spoilers.

Well, the Children believe in The Division. As High Confessor Tektus says:

"Atom's greatest gift. Locked inside us all are billions of invisible worlds, waiting only to be touched by His Glow in order to be born anew through Division. During the Great War, it was granted to many, though they certainly didn't realize it. But today it is often a slow process, taking years of exposure in order to be realized. We are all here to spend our lives seeking the promise of Division, however long it may take. Now, did you have another question?"

Apparently, being inside a nuclear blast is the preferred method. They have admitted to attempting to hack the system, since they don't have the launch key.

[Cor.]

Originally posted by Lord Nighthawk:

Originally posted by Cor.:

Ive finished it.

Next.

Great, then your definition of neutral differs hard from mine :)

DIMA did what was necessary to keep the island safe and the 3 "factions" from going to full out war. He did good things(fog condensers) and some not so good things(replacing individuals with Synths)

He kept the balance, with the players help.

So yeah, if that isnt balance and Neutral to you, you need to look up the definition again.

[mjeff052]

depends on your own pov. is murder lying and deception good or bad. he has done all. including manipulation of two seperate colonies.

[Xenon The Noble]

Originally posted by Cooper:

Is he really evil, or am I being manipulated into thinking he's innocent? Are his actions and words just part of his programming to deceive me? Or am I just being paranoid and missing his true nature? The more I interact with him, the more I doubt my own judgment. This uncertainty makes it hard to know what's real.

Everyone is good and bad.
The more you interact with anyone, the more you find out their evil side. Except Elder Maxson, who is Hitler II right from the get go.
DiMA is a broken machine that kills people. This goes against his programming so he simply deletes the memory of murder, thus there is no way to know how many DiMA has killed. He has even contemplated mass murder, and deleted that memory too.