[Mods/Vortex] persistent crash issues with loading saves and fast travelling

[Kryptonline]

I hope such posts are allowed in here as single-posts.

I've played the game with mods for 91 hours now and only had minor issues with crashes, but now it has gone gamebreaking.
I use Vortex and start the game by executing C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\f4se_loader.exe from it.

Loading either quicksaves or manual saves and fast travelling results in a crash.
I did mess around a bit with load orders and did some research on improving them but I thought I'd rather ask players with more experience before I waste my time disabling every mod one by one and don't find the error.

Below's the list of installed plugins:

*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*Homemaker.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*TrueStormsFO4.esm
*BetterCompanions.esp
*keyNuker.esp
*VeryRichMerchants.esp
*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp
*CheatTerminal.esp
*OCDecorator.esp
*OCDecoratorDLC.esp
*OCDispenser.esp
*Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
*Vivid Waters.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
*Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
*Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
*LongerPowerLines3x.esp
*dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp

and here the loadorder of mods:

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
Homemaker.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
TrueStormsFO4.esm
BetterCompanions.esp
keyNuker.esp
VeryRichMerchants.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp
CheatTerminal.esp
OCDecorator.esp
OCDecoratorDLC.esp
OCDispenser.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
Vivid Waters.esp
Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp

Hopefully someone can find the mistake(s) I made in sorting the mods, even installing one of them or whatever the error may be because I can't find it. Loading a save with 3 hours of progression lost back when everything still worked is no option as the game crashes (as expected)...

Any help would be appreciated.

[pavelev]

I can't give you universal advice, but I also had and still have these problems. Leave the loading of the mode order to LOOT. Install Wrye Bash and run it, modes that are marked in red so remove them. Try creating a Merged Patch. I use Private Vertibird to travel https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22450 and sometimes I can't reach the destination area because the game crashes, so during the flight I change to another location and land then start again and get where I need to go. My game crashes when I'm traveling for a long time and sometimes I can't load a saved position, so I load the old save first and as soon as the game loads I reload the last save. Then the play again goes without falls.

[Kryptonline]

Originally posted by pavelev:

I can't give you universal advice, but I also had and still have these problems. Leave the loading of the mode order to LOOT. Install Wrye Bash and run it, modes that are marked in red so remove them. Try creating a Merged Patch. I use Private Vertibird to travel https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22450 and sometimes I can't reach the destination area because the game crashes, so during the flight I change to another location and land then start again and get where I need to go. My game crashes when I'm traveling for a long time and sometimes I can't load a saved position, so I load the old save first and as soon as the game loads I reload the last save. Then the play again goes without falls.

Well, thanks for your advice. I tried everything you suggested and I indeed had some errors shown by LOOT and others but I could resolve them. What I could not solve is still the initial issue, the game crashing on loading and fast travelling. I'm clueless what to do now.

[Miku]

I noticed you installed your game in C: drive, program files.
I dont think that this is a good idea.
You could try moving your install around, if nothing better is mentioned.

[Wasteland Project]

There may be discordant between the .ini files.
-Delete the .ini files from documents folder (there is another .ini file inside the game folder also that could affect it, it can be deleted) and validate game files from Steam.
-If even that doesn't work, only solution is to deactivate (please don't uninstall but temporarily deactivate every single mod) and try to make fast travel.
-Also check via Vortex some mods that need to be updated.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

As mentioned above having the game in the program files directory can cause issues. This link is to information on how to more easily move steam or the games to another location.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129

In the past couple of weeks windows 10 has had some updates and before I moved my steam installation from its default program files location there were always issues following these updates especially if they were supposedly security updates.

[Kryptonline]

Good news, folks... First of all, thanks for all your suggestions and efforts. I've moved the game to another drive and auto cleaned everything again as I did move the mods as well. I got tired of disabling every single mod one by one and then enabling it again only to disable the next mod and see if I still get crashes, so I just disabled every mod and plugin and suddenly I was able to fast travel.
Guess I'll continue trying and do it right this time (forgot to enable plugins for some mods again) and try every single combination. See you in 4000 years....

[Kryptonline]

Update: Found the mod who was causing the crashes. It was the unofficial Fallout 4 patch. Ironic.

[Chef]

Originally posted by Kryptonline:

Update: Found the mod who was causing the crashes. It was the unofficial Fallout 4 patch. Ironic.:SBchicken:

You have some other problem going on. The patch will not cause crashes on its own. Also, you cannot remove mods like that on an existing save and go forward. The only thing you could do is go back to a save before you added the patch and start over from there.

I am familiar with all the mods you have listed there except for keyNuker and am either currently using them or I have in the past. If I had to make a guess its due to you using True Storms and Vivid Weathers together without using the patch that allows you to use them at the same time. It could also have something to do with Reverb Ambiance Overhaul also.

But my general point is that while the crashing seems to go away if you remove the patch, I know for a fact that the patch is not the cause of your crashes.

[jholcjholc]

i had problems with vortex dumped it and went back to MO2 game runs great now