Diamond City sucks

[UnderTow]

Diamond City is not a bad city but it really sucks if thats supposed to be the capital, or largest city in the game. especially as you can create far larger settlements yourself.

lame.

[Floppium]

The problem is the lack of high building. Most of the diamond city buildings are small and short which gives a feeling of "small town" when the reality is that it is basically a fairly large city. If diamond city had "skyscrapers" or more tall buildings, but they have exactly the same number of buildings and sellers and bla bla bla, the people would think different ...

[Pancakes]

Originally posted by Spidey:

The problem is the lack of high building. Most of the diamond city buildings are small and short which gives a feeling of "small town" when the reality is that it is basically a fairly large city. If diamond city had "skyscrapers" or more tall buildings, but they have exactly the same number of buildings and sellers and bla bla bla, the people would think different ...

It does have the upper stands.

[Floppium]

Originally posted by XBoom:

Originally posted by Spidey:

The problem is the lack of high building. Most of the diamond city buildings are small and short which gives a feeling of "small town" when the reality is that it is basically a fairly large city. If diamond city had "skyscrapers" or more tall buildings, but they have exactly the same number of buildings and sellers and bla bla bla, the people would think different ...

It does have the upper stands.

Is not the same

[Leg Day]

No game for the webslinger! I agree. Megaton felt bigger. High buildings with dense smog up top would make it feel whole lot bigger

[Schwengelbengel]

if i start modding this time (finally), one of my first mods would definitely add some generic buildings and people to diamond city to make it feel more like a city.

[Morrandir]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Originally posted by Vinnie Mack:

I'd still like to hear where you get "no nukes fell on Las Vegas" from. Any sources or quotes? Doesn't make much sense that nearly all of Las Vegas was absolutely obliterated and razed to the ground, yet a lot of the skyscrapers of Boston are still standing.
You're talking as if Las Vegas became a pre-war haven untouched by the war.

Thanks to the efforts of Robert House, most of the city of Las Vegas, Nevada and the Hoover Dam remained intact, and many buildings still have electricity as of 2281. About twenty years before the Great War, House predicted when the bombs would fall. In the meantime, he installed defenses such as point-defense laser cannon turrets on the roof of the Lucky 38 casino, and heavy computing power to brute-force the disarm codes to the Chinese atomic warheads. The brute-force disarming handled the majority of the nuclear weapons targeting the Mojave region, while the lasers handled most of the rest before they hit Las Vegas. Had his platinum chip been delivered only a day earlier, an even greater area of the Mojave Wasteland could have been spared the terrible destruction. In time, the remains of Las Vegas came to be known as New Vegas.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_War

Robert Edwin House, 261, President, CEO, and sole proprietor of the New Vegas Strip, industrialist and technologist, founder, President, and CEO of the multi-billion-dollar pre-War robotics and software corporation, RobCo Industries, has died.

Generally recognized by Mr. House to be mankind's only hope of long-term survival, Mr. House's passing may well sound a death knell for the entire human race.

Lost forever is his bounty of knowledge concerning human longevity, the depth and breadth of which could, as he was apt to say, "fill several text books". He was not exaggerating. Though he did not achieve his goal of functional immortality, let us not forget that he died at the age of 261. How many people do that? I mean, come on.

Also lost forever are House's singular personality, force of will, vision, and leadership ability. The probability of an equally capable figure emerging from the current human population to lead mankind to a future of equivalent quality is less than 0.000112% by objective measures too complex to detail in this obituary.

Personality and force of will: Born June 25th, 2020, House was orphaned at an early age when his parents died in a freak accident (auto gyro, lightning). Though cheated of his inheritance, House attended the prestigious Institute in Massachusetts and founded RobCo Industries on his 22nd birthday. Within five years, it was one of the most profitable corporations on Earth.

Vision: By 2065, House was certain that an atomic war would soon devastate the planet. At great personal expense, he developed technologies to ensure the structural integrity of the city of Las Vegas (as it was known at the time). On the day of the great war, 77 atomic warheads targeted the city. Mr. House defeated them all. Talk about vision!

Leadership: Mr. House survived the war, of course, and would later recruit the Three Families, negotiate the Treaty of New Vegas, and rebuild the Vegas Strip. While these achievements yielded many immediate benefits, they were all part of House's master plan to re-ignite mankind's quest for technological advancement, a plan without which the human race has nowhere to go, and nowhere to turn.

/// Will revise and finish this up later. Have set the age at death to update automatically. Obit makes salient points but "pearls before swine," of course. Let's hope the ingrates never have cause to read it. Who knows how many of them are even literate!

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tragedy_Has_Befallen_All_Mankind

[Gnarl]

The outfield needs to be filled in. One more thing, those poor kids in the school. I went by there 3am one time and they were still in class. That's just cruel.

[xMightyMeatballx]

It is a cool city. Logically, I see why it was settled. I don't understand why they did so little with it. There's a bar, with a scripted fight, and then you can talk to the people about it after, only for them to go about as if nothing happened. I really thought I'd get a quest there, after the argument and all. Especially remembering the last time I walked in on an argument (New Vegas, Goodsprings, that whole thing). Everybody else in the upper stands sucks. Theres no equivalent to the gun runners, not even something half as large. Nobody has any quests. The only people living there are the vendors, and like 5 residents. How the vendors even make a living is beyond me. I like the idea, i just wish Beth. did way more with it. Made it The Great (Green?) Jewel of the Commonwealth you're lead to believe it would be. I mean really, the biggest city in the game has no quests and the people basically ignore me half the time.

[Vinnie Mack]

Have to argue with you on this, Josh. There are a few quests in the city: the radio man one, the science one, all the nick detective ones, the paint one, the guy wanting a coke, the water treatment plant. There aren't really any great quests like Fallout's survival guide, unless you count the nick recordings. And it really does seem to be lacking in people. It would have been nice if you could go up in all the stands. Maybe some modders can liven up the place a bit.

If you think Diamond city is bad, how about concord, with all it boarded up houses? Can you say Concord Mod?

[REPENT]

Diamond City is also a stupid concept because I hate baseball.

[Vinnie Mack]

Originally posted by Kangaroo:

Diamond City is also a stupid concept because I hate baseball.

well, baseball does suck. But it is logical that they would use a stadium. Thing is, shouldnt' a fatboy blow a hole in the side of the stadium? Even raiders are armed with fatboys. But i guess we have to suspend our imagination from time to time to enjoy fictional works.

[REPENT]

Originally posted by Vinnie Mack:

Originally posted by Kangaroo:

Diamond City is also a stupid concept because I hate baseball.

well, baseball does suck. But it is logical that they would use a stadium. Thing is, shouldnt' a fatboy blow a hole in the side of the stadium? Even raiders are armed with fatboys. But i guess we have to suspend our imagination from time to time to enjoy fictional works.

Yeah and if they used the fat boys range they can fire in over the wall and bombard Diamond City at range

[Vain]

Originally posted by Raizo:

Originally posted by Tex_Recoil:

The three things I like about it is, 1) number of vendors 2) roaming guards outside the walls 3) safe place to store my stuff from companion/settlers stealing it.

1) You can create as many vendors as you want in your settlements.
2) You can assign your own guards in settlements.
3) Why would they not be safe in your own settlements? You can just store it all in your workshop.

Adding another issue.. 4) ... How does Diamond City compare to Rivet City, Citadel, Necropolis, Big Town, Underworld, Megaton, Vault City, Nellis Air force Base, Cottonwood Cove, Jacobstown, Primm, New Vegas (Including Sewer settlers, freeside, the square and westside)
Diamond City is pretty tiny and kind of a joke in comparison to most of those mentioned, especially New Vegas.

Settlers can take your weapons from the workshop.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by UnderTow:

Diamond City is not a bad city but it really sucks if thats supposed to be the capital, or largest city in the game. especially as you can create far larger settlements yourself.

lame.

Diamon City is just one *part* of the largest city. In any case - its inside a baseball stadium, most residential neighborhoods are larger than stadiums.

Its actually kind of dumb for them to have played it up like that. As a well defended enclave in the center of a larger settlement - would have made sense. As some people pitched tents on the diamond, not so much.