Survival - Clean Hard Save?

[Kodiak412]

Has anyone heard about the survival save and what kind of save it is? When you sleep will it create a new clean hard save or just keep writing over some kind of auto save.

This can be critical for Beth games especially if you want to mod the game. Corruption is always a concern and without clean hard saves to fall back on, this could be a show stopper unless Beth has figured out a way to address this situation. Thanks in advance for any replies.

[Kodiak412]

Since more information about Survival is starting to come to light, I thought I would give this another try.

To me this is critical for a Survival playthrough. Eventually I will be modding this game and using auto saves and quick saves can be a real problem.

Please Beth make the sleeping feature to save go to a clean hard save slot.

[Oni]

Hi Kodiak.

Yes this seems like it is going to be an issue. Im currently playing survival beta, and to be honnest rigged with 80+ mods :D, haters gona hate. I really love the features and especially the sleep saving.
The mods i use are esm renamed and edited in FO4Edit to be .esp, they are little misbihaving but to be expected since to load it you need to...... especialy homemaker. I have no crashes no fps drops and it worked fine......

.... Until today.....

I started to experience "infinite loads" on almost everything, like elevaitors, and changing cell.
IF i load older saves it works nice, even with mods, BUT its like 3-4 ingame days which i completed some of the worst quests with survival on and "Better Localized damage" which makes you die when someone looks at you wrong...

So i can cofirm your suspicion/doubts that sleep saving will be contraproductive.
Heres hoping this is just a result of trying beta+mods, which i know is wrong :P

Im going to try to cleen the mods and try to "cleen sleep" :D and use other mods to somehow clean the save. and can report back if wanted.

[Kodiak412]

Thanks for the update ONI. Please do come back and let us know what else you experience.

I do think that the Beta + Mods = Big Gamble. :) So I hope that is all that it is.

80+ Mods Oh my. LOL the most I ever got to was about 50 :) but I do remove some on a regular basis if I find they do not add what I expected. If I do not use them in routine gameplay then I usually remove them after a trial.

Good luck in the Commonwealth.

[Oni]

Hey Im back.
So 80+ mods and beta still holds smooth. the save bloating corrupting went away. I loaded the save and went to bed right after. I can continue no problem. SO if you experience something like that just have to "resleepsave"

EDIT: Just checked, its 108 esps

[Kodiak412]

Thanks for the update that is good news. Maybe the full release will be even more stable than the beta.

108 LOL Maybe the Wasteland Workshop will make some of them obsolete.