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Peeratat Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:21pm
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Fallout TV Series Is Likely Woke
As the Fallout TV series gears up, there's growing concern it's heading down the all-too-familiar 'woke' path. With a female lead at the helm, the show seems poised to follow the trend of other game adaptations like The Witcher and The Last of Us, which have been criticized for veering into woke territory.

Why the worry? The female lead character is a glaring red flag. Based on recent trends, she'll likely be an over-empowered, unrealistically flawless 'girl boss' archetype, echoing a pattern that's become a staple in modern adaptations. This approach often sacrifices complex character development for a one-dimensional portrayal that ticks the inclusivity box but fails to resonate with the essence of Fallout.

The cast ensemble further fuels these fears. If the trend holds, expect a lineup designed more to showcase diversity quotas than to capture the gritty, post-apocalyptic spirit of Fallout. The richness of the game's universe risks being overshadowed by an overt focus on representing every possible demographic, regardless of whether it fits the narrative.

History doesn't bode well either. Recent game-to-TV adaptations have leaned heavily into woke themes, often at the cost of the source material's integrity. It's a pattern that's left many fans disillusioned, questioning whether these shows are more about pushing a social agenda than staying true to the games they're based on.

But there's a sliver of hope. The series is under the direction of Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolan's brother. Jonathan is known for his work on Westworld, a show that, while complex, managed to avoid falling into the woke trap. Christopher Nolan's reputation for deep, thought-provoking storytelling in films like Inception and The Dark Knight offers a glimmer of hope that Jonathan might bring a similar depth and avoidance of cliché to the Fallout series.

However, this hope is slim. The pressure to conform to the prevailing 'woke' culture in media is immense, and even a Nolan might find it hard to resist.
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RabbitRidge Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:34pm 
I really don't care in any case (not a Prime member). But I do hope it's largely plain humorous. If so, I might watch it some day.
Chalybern Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:45pm 
Why are you getting so triggered over this? Bad VG adaptations are bad because they are bad, not because they are "woke". You don't even know what that word means.
Riggnarok Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:47pm 
There's a female lead? Meh. Don't care the lead could be a deathclaw for all I care. I'll wait for season one to end and see the reviews That's normally a good way to find out if your thinking it might be woke. Honestly would not be surprised if it does go down that path.
DouglasGrave Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Riggnarok:
There's a female lead? Meh. Don't care the lead could be a deathclaw for all I care. I'll wait for season one to end and see the reviews That's normally a good way to find out if your thinking it might be woke. Honestly would not be surprised if it does go down that path.
I would be in favour of a deathclaw lead. There is very little in the way of representation for deathclaws on television.
CEPHY Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:59pm 
Having a female lead is no reason for the show to be woke by any means.

Seriously, just because a lot of woke shows have a female lead doesn't mean a female lead auto-translates to woke.

Wether or not a show is woke depends entirely on the people writing the script. If they're woke, so is the show. If not, then it won't be. At least, if said person has any amount of self respect.

I'd be more worried about the company behind the show.
RabbitRidge Dec 3, 2023 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
I would be in favour of a deathclaw lead. There is very little in the way of representation for deathclaws on television.
lol
Longhaul Dec 3, 2023 @ 12:13am 
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You can bet that there will be some character who pretends to be something else! Have to shove this ♥♥♥♥ down your throat with every show and movie now.
DouglasGrave Dec 3, 2023 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Longhaul:
You can bet that there will be some character who pretends to be something else! Have to shove this ♥♥♥♥ down your throat with every show and movie now.
That would be hard to tell, since I didn't see a lot of synths in the teaser. Or did I...?
Potato Chimp Dec 3, 2023 @ 12:22am 
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Television is generally unwatchable garbage for the gullible brain dead masses, another woke disaster will not come as a shock, rather a predictable mess of modern cliches and opportunities to virtue signal and indoctrinate.
Riggnarok Dec 3, 2023 @ 12:27am 
I second that DouglasGrave lol. If I remember right there is an vault that actually had deathclaws that could talk etc. Very cool part of that game. Too bad they really never been shown that much after
Twelvefield Dec 3, 2023 @ 1:23am 
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I voted for President Deathclaw, and he ate the electoral college won by a narrow but fair margin. President Deathclaw is on TV all the time now, on every channel it seems. The crazy thing is I don't even live in President Deathclaw's country.

EDIT: 10/10, would vote for President Deathclaw for another term!
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Hootman Dec 3, 2023 @ 2:02am 
Haven't played in probably a year, but just watched the trailer and figured I'd drop by here to see if there was any discussion, and lo and behold right off the bat, the same type of Troll post to be found anytime there's and adaptation or reboot of something. And you guys feel for it hook, line and sinker.

This garbage has been going on since the series was announced, you can find articles dating back a year ago. Now that the trailer is out, the Trolls are once again......Trolling.
Relic62 Dec 3, 2023 @ 3:04am 
I'm sure your all still watching Halo, cause that tv show just did its own thing and never followed the the game or the books written about it, so dont be suprised if this show goes the same way. As to whether you complain or not the powers that be wont care, just means they wont do any more shows if it bombs. I loved the witcher series until that last show and anyone with any sense could see where that was heading.
nobalkain Dec 3, 2023 @ 3:14am 
I was sad to hear they are going to be looking for some stupid Macguffin. I had hoped it would just be the Story of a Vault Survivor. This stupid Mystery Box way of Story Telling that all Modern Writers seem to use as a Crutch is just so tiring. I am sure they will also try and "Subvert" our "Expectations" (AKA through out all Common Sense Writing) as well.

What we need more then anything is for Good Writers to be Hired again, instead of basing it off of "Diversity". I dont care whats between your legs, or what color your skin is, I just want the Best Person for the JOB.
Askey Dec 3, 2023 @ 3:49am 
Honestly would not be surprised. Lord of the Rings; the Rings of Power anyone?

Amazon did literally lose billions last year, maybe they have learned their lesson? Perhaps they will actually attempt to provide entertainment rather than create some weird shallow activist series.

Why is it so difficult for these companies to give us female leads like Ripley from Aliens? Instead of Mary Sue, God Tier, shallow, activist female characters with the personality of cardboard boxes?

As 'nobalkain' said in the previous comments; I just want good writing and a decent story.
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