Fallout 4

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drakvyr 18/dez./2023 às 9:52
I hate that the Sole Survivor's background wasn't mentioned much.
Like I'm curious. Did the Sole Survivor keep Shaun's identity as the Director of the Institute a secret? Did the companions know that the Sole Survivor had a spouse and child? Why was the military background for the male SS even created when it's barely mentioned much in the game? Like dam I didn't realize the writing for Fallout 4 was horrible until I paid much attention to it instead of focusing on the gameplay.
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Chaosium 18/dez./2023 às 10:03 
Is it relevant? Their background is gone with the rest of the pre-war world
libertasgrace 18/dez./2023 às 10:23 
I get what you mean, the wife is mentioned as a lawyer. Simply that. She could've been a defense attorney, a divorce lawyer, it's not like there's one kind of attorney but- nope, never elaborated on. I think, if I recall correctly, there's a cut terminal for the player's Sanctuary house, but I don't remember if there was anything more on either one's background. (Also, the military background does makes sense for the husband when you use Power Armor but how does the wife know how to use it or get in? Never explained.)

I was watching a video with all of Nick's dialogue from the base game, cut lines included, and he asks when you come back from the Institute where your son is, what happened. I'm assuming we would've been able to tell him and other companions what happened with Father, but for whatever reason, I'm assuming it was never implemented.
Zes 18/dez./2023 às 12:25 
no one wouldn't care something that happened 200 years ago. besides he might be trying to blend in
PeaceMaker 18/dez./2023 às 13:02 
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Like I'm curious. Did the Sole Survivor keep Shaun's identity as the Director of the Institute a secret? Did the companions know that the Sole Survivor had a spouse and child? Why was the military background for the male SS even created when it's barely mentioned much in the game? Like dam I didn't realize the writing for Fallout 4 was horrible until I paid much attention to it instead of focusing on the gameplay.


I don't think you quite understand what a role playing game is. Yea, the writing isn't War and Peace, but there is some background, so we know that the male Survivor is or was a soldier. But if the background is too detail, it would make it hard for you, as the Player, to RP your own character, as I do. That's why character backgrounds in Role-Playing Games, need to be light. YOU make the background.

That's why Morrowind starts you as a nobody. Oblivion starts you as a nobody. Skyrim starts you as a nobody. Even New Vegas starts you as a nobody Courier.


Última edição por PeaceMaker; 18/dez./2023 às 13:13
Zes 18/dez./2023 às 13:12 
ah yeah, and there is this ^

designers leave you room to make your own story.
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ah yeah, and there is this ^

designers leave you room to make your own story.

Except they really don't, you are forced to be a desperate parent that must find their poor baby boy that got kidnapped by the big bad boogeyman
PeaceMaker 18/dez./2023 às 13:22 
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ah yeah, and there is this ^

designers leave you room to make your own story.

Except they really don't, you are forced to be a desperate parent that must find their poor baby boy that got kidnapped by the big bad boogeyman

That's really semantics. All they did was add a little preamble to help some of you and your imaginations. But in my view, they should have just had you leave the vault like in Fallout3, they shouldn't even have given the Protagonist an audible voice since it limits the player. Still you would have no idea why you were frozen then, so we had to see the little start-up story.

But once out the Vault, you are a nobody just as with previous games. It's the same thing.
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steventirey 18/dez./2023 às 13:26 
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ah yeah, and there is this ^

designers leave you room to make your own story.

Except they really don't, you are forced to be a desperate parent that must find their poor baby boy that got kidnapped by the big bad boogeyman

There needs to be something to tie you to the story. But Bethesda tries to keep as much as possible about the player character vague. It just makes it far easier on them when they make a sequel. Otherwise, they need to pull something like a Dragonbreak - where all the possible endings of Daggerfall happened simultaneously. Even the contradictory ones.
Zes 18/dez./2023 às 21:37 
In the moment you get out of vault and arrive sanctuary you forget all about your son and start collecting junk..

if there is one thing that you are kinda forced is that collecting junk ;) story is just there to spice things up.. that you remember once in a while
alex010300 19/dez./2023 às 1:02 
Shaun did say to keep silent about this because he free the SS illegally so the rest of the people assume he has a plan for the SS.
DouglasGrave 19/dez./2023 às 2:12 
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Escrito originalmente por libertasgrace:
I get what you mean, the wife is mentioned as a lawyer. Simply that. She could've been a defense attorney, a divorce lawyer, it's not like there's one kind of attorney but- nope, never elaborated on. I think, if I recall correctly, there's a cut terminal for the player's Sanctuary house, but I don't remember if there was anything more on either one's background. (Also, the military background does makes sense for the husband when you use Power Armor but how does the wife know how to use it or get in? Never explained.)

I was watching a video with all of Nick's dialogue from the base game, cut lines included, and he asks when you come back from the Institute where your son is, what happened. I'm assuming we would've been able to tell him and other companions what happened with Father, but for whatever reason, I'm assuming it was never implemented.

There was meant to be a terminal in the SS house that was cut content.

Nora for instance:

"=Case File Notes - Blanks vs. Kelley=
Gina shouldn't have even had me review this one. It's a pretty clear non-starter. Two professional fighters go at it in the ring, one of them loses - badly - and claims the winner cheated. Doesn't say how, and nothing backs up his claim. Seems like a pretty clear case of soreloseritis. Boo hoo. Pass.

=Case File Notes - Massachusetts vs. Silva=
I just can't see how the Commonwealth even has a case here.

Corsino Silva, 23 year-old Roxbury resident of Cape Verdean descent, charged with the armed robbery of a Slocum's Joe coffee shop. But there's simply no hard evidence. Just the word of Cozelli, and even her description of the suspect barely matches Cruz.

I think this is the one - the case that gets me back in the game. We've got plenty saved, so I can take it pro bono. Corsino Cruz is just some poor fool who's being set up as the bad guy because the state needs him to be. The Hell with that. He's innocent, and I'm going to prove it.

Time to show Shaun how tough his mommy really is."
Probably just as well they cut the second case, since they apparently couldn't decide whether the person was named Silva or Cruz. :steammocking:
aside from fo3 most vault dwellers who are the protagonists are kept in the shadows or told very little

mostly b/c it doesn't really matter with the old adage of "war never changes" well neither do people apparently as is seen all throughout fallout games.
even synthetic people apparently
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