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pjedilord Dec 17, 2023 @ 3:29pm
Fallout 4 Wheres Incredible Boss Battles?
So is Kellogg the only best Boss battle in Fallout 4 considering how
important for SS battle? so to reach Institute SS has to defeat Kellogg or
die and never see Sean again,SS has more to fight for and more incentive
than Kellogg has to win? and revenge what he did to SS,Kellogg only fighting
for his life. Prime is cool boss battle.
Looks cool but only so but not spectacular battle.

Mire queen is cool Boss,but the Boss battles like Skyrim are def not
Incredible or spectacular,Why can't company make incredible spectacular
battles like other games? Company has made Wolfenstein Colossus and sequel
YB and Boss battles,robot battles so much advance incredible spectacular
more than Fallout 4? is due to engine? can they better for Fallout 5?

I was wow having addrainlene playing robot battles in Colossus and sequel.
I want so in Fallout 5 to have addrainlene. Maybe new update?

Doom has good gun play, why is Fallout 4 gun play not on par with Wolfenstein
Doom games? same company to.Gunplay is very good in Fallout 4 but needs more?

Iam wiling to gruss Starfield has poor boss battles and gun play not as good
as Wolfenstein Doom games?So same like Fallout 4 with Starfield gun play boss?

Though i much prefer Fallout 4 more so and is better game Wolfenstein Doom games.
I think they need to use new engine or use unreal 5 like Mass Effect 5 and
Cyberpunk 2 is using unreal 5 engine. Fallout 5 will be years behind in
game making if they use there old engine?How can mods make boss battles better?
So hope not asking for too much?
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PeaceMaker Dec 17, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
You again.

Fallout isn't Doom. they're different. weren't you even saying there should be more talky `soap operas`? Now you want big boss battles.

Make up ya mind.
BGratz Dec 17, 2023 @ 4:12pm 
Biggest boss battle is to sort your Inventory or build with that UI that forces me to scroll through hundrets of bars to find finally what i need
CEPHY Dec 17, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by PeaceMaker:
You again.

Fallout isn't Doom. they're different. weren't you even saying there should be more talky `soap operas`? Now you want big boss battles.

Make up ya mind.
First pjedi post there, pal?

You get used to it.
Castyles Dec 17, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
Finish the story under the Intitute story arc. The final battle against Maxson is awesome.
TheLoveMummy Dec 17, 2023 @ 4:19pm 
A boss battle is always a click away. Just crank the enemy to max settings and pick attack now. Raiders and brotherhood will show up in power armor so bring your can opener. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/37393
Zekiran Dec 17, 2023 @ 5:28pm 
I'm glad that there aren't more "boss fights" in games like this.

This isn't a leveled, platformer game. It's a freeform sandbox with stuff in it to play with.

The games that I love that DO have boss fights, always come with such a jarring "you are in a boss fight now!!" method.

Far Cry 5 in particular. I love that game, quite a bit. I enjoy New Dawn a lot. But both of them, as with the other Far Cry games, insert Boss Fights in there that sometimes arbitrarily take over what you're doing.

I wasn't ready to fight, I was off doing something else. But oops I triggered a cut scene! Now I'm in a boss fight and heading through the rest of the game I guess. :/

So I'm glad that this one really doesn't have that so much. It has 'wave battles' and plenty of them, that's fun, and more in keeping with the theme of the game itself.
Zekiran Dec 17, 2023 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by Pookie101:

I was starting to think I was the only person on Earth that enjoyed New Dawn

Nah there's someone on that section of the forum with like "the same amount of hours in that game" as I have in this one (over 4k) and I was like HOW how does one even get that far into it?

Then I started doing the repeatables and was like. OH. OH.

and then ubi yanked their windows 7 launcher so it's been MONTHS since I've been able to even access my damn account let alone launch games that were bought for 7 and run fine on it. >_> jus sayin, obsolescence is garbage. I want to play my games. New Dawn and no mans sky, my top 'i really need to scratch this itch' games I can't run until I have 10 running prolly tomorrow.
pjedilord Dec 18, 2023 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by PeaceMaker:
You again.

Fallout isn't Doom. they're different. weren't you even saying there should be more talky `soap operas`? Now you want big boss battles.

Make up ya mind.


Originally posted by Zekiran:
I'm glad that there aren't more "boss fights" in games like this.

This isn't a leveled, platformer game. It's a freeform sandbox with stuff in it to play with.

The games that I love that DO have boss fights, always come with such a jarring "you are in a boss fight now!!" method.

Far Cry 5 in particular. I love that game, quite a bit. I enjoy New Dawn a lot. But both of them, as with the other Far Cry games, insert Boss Fights in there that sometimes arbitrarily take over what you're doing.

I wasn't ready to fight, I was off doing something else. But oops I triggered a cut scene! Now I'm in a boss fight and heading through the rest of the game I guess. :/

So I'm glad that this one really doesn't have that so much. It has 'wave battles' and plenty of them, that's fun, and more in keeping with the theme of the game itself.


Originally posted by Pookie101:
Originally posted by Castyles:
Finish the story under the Intitute story arc. The final battle against Maxson is awesome.

The battle of Boston airport really is a high point. Told what you need to do. dropped outside the area and left to figure out how


Originally posted by Pookie101:
Originally posted by pjedilord:
So is Kellogg the only best Boss battle in Fallout 4 considering how
important for SS battle? so to reach Institute SS has to defeat Kellogg or
die and never see Sean again,SS has more to fight for and more incentive
than Kellogg has to win? and revenge what he did to SS,Kellogg only fighting
for his life. Prime is cool boss battle.
Looks cool but only so but not spectacular battle.

Mire queen is cool Boss,but the Boss battles like Skyrim are def not
Incredible or spectacular,Why can't company make incredible spectacular
battles like other games? Company has made Wolfenstein Colossus and sequel
YB and Boss battles,robot battles so much advance incredible spectacular
more than Fallout 4? is due to engine? can they better for Fallout 5?

I was wow having addrainlene playing robot battles in Colossus and sequel.
I want so in Fallout 5 to have addrainlene. Maybe new update?

Doom has good gun play, why is Fallout 4 gun play not on par with Wolfenstein
Doom games? same company to.Gunplay is very good in Fallout 4 but needs more?

Iam wiling to gruss Starfield has poor boss battles and gun play not as good
as Wolfenstein Doom games?So same like Fallout 4 with Starfield gun play boss?

Though i much prefer Fallout 4 more so and is better game Wolfenstein Doom games.
I think they need to use new engine or use unreal 5 like Mass Effect 5 and
Cyberpunk 2 is using unreal 5 engine. Fallout 5 will be years behind in
game making if they use there old engine?How can mods make boss battles better?
So hope not asking for too much?

Because each of those games you mention are made by different development teams. Doom is ID. Wolfenstein is Machine games, etc

For all the issues Starfield has the combat is the best in a Bethesda game. The weapons feel good.



Final battle in Institute was missing spectacular battles,fun blasting though.
Only having rare synth prototype there.Like Kellogg boss battle?
Chunk Norris ☯ Dec 18, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
I think one of the things that made Fallout New Vegas just so darn good is the choice of who you could side with and their power was impressive and you had worth enemies. House NCR The Legion

Whereas Fallout 4...you have silly unrealistic railroad people, you had the Brotherhood of steel (only worth enemy) and you had the Institute which all things considered they were kind of wimps.

I look to previous fallout games on how they could have improved Fallout....the railroad it's silly to fight for the life of a robot/synth when there's ACTUAL slavery in the Fallout Universe. The Institute...just synths? really? Not even killer synth gorillias? Or how about some of the neat robots we saw in Fallout Tactics?
socialmediaaddress3 Dec 18, 2023 @ 10:34pm 
Hardest battle in the game is probably Nuka World when doing the quest open season.
Involves a small number of bosses at (nearly) the same time.
And they have many competent helpers on top of that who all get into the action against u at same time.
DouglasGrave Dec 18, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
Shipwrecker (Far Harbour DLC) and Overboss Colter (Nuka World DLC) stand out as other fights against tough individual opponents, and the last battle in the Automatron DLC is harrowing, even if there's no big individual target (you can fight the Mechanist, but that's not the meat of the encounter).

Come to think of it, Nuka World also has the bloodworm queen, nukalurk queen, and Oswald the Outrageous, it just doesn't have bosses that are giant invincible beings that tower over you. Even the Concord deathclaw would count as an early boss the way Fallout 4 does things.

In earlier Fallout games maybe the giant roboscorpion from New Vegas' Old World Blues DLC would stand out, and fighting the brain from Point Lookout for Fallout 3. The Master from Fallout 1 and Frank Horrigan from Fallout 2 of course, and technically the Calculator from Fallout: Tactics (though fighting a behemoth robot at the gates of its lair stands out more in my memory).

Originally posted by pjedilord:
Final battle in Institute was missing spectacular battles,fun blasting though.
The final battles against the Institute are also somewhat unsatisfying for being essentially identical.

They put far more work into fighting the Brotherhood, who is already the most fun to fight due to their mix of troops. You get your choice of a base defense at the Castle (Minutemen), a mixed combat/infiltration (Railroad), or the biggest fight in the game taking the fight head-on at the airport (Institute). The Institute one is particularly involved, with the ongoing fight in general, taking out the jammers to swing things in your favour, defending the hacking synth, and the final stage where Maxson swoops it to be defeated and give you his loot.
alex010300 Dec 19, 2023 @ 12:58am 
Mirelurk Queen and super mutant behemoth is consider as bosses.
pjedilord Dec 19, 2023 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Chunk Norris ☯:
I think one of the things that made Fallout New Vegas just so darn good is the choice of who you could side with and their power was impressive and you had worth enemies. House NCR The Legion

Whereas Fallout 4...you have silly unrealistic railroad people, you had the Brotherhood of steel (only worth enemy) and you had the Institute which all things considered they were kind of wimps.

I look to previous fallout games on how they could have improved Fallout....the railroad it's silly to fight for the life of a robot/synth when there's ACTUAL slavery in the Fallout Universe. The Institute...just synths? really? Not even killer synth gorillias? Or how about some of the neat robots we saw in Fallout Tactics?


Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
Shipwrecker (Far Harbour DLC) and Overboss Colter (Nuka World DLC) stand out as other fights against tough individual opponents, and the last battle in the Automatron DLC is harrowing, even if there's no big individual target (you can fight the Mechanist, but that's not the meat of the encounter).

Come to think of it, Nuka World also has the bloodworm queen, nukalurk queen, and Oswald the Outrageous, it just doesn't have bosses that are giant invincible beings that tower over you. Even the Concord deathclaw would count as an early boss the way Fallout 4 does things.

In earlier Fallout games maybe the giant roboscorpion from New Vegas' Old World Blues DLC would stand out, and fighting the brain from Point Lookout for Fallout 3. The Master from Fallout 1 and Frank Horrigan from Fallout 2 of course, and technically the Calculator from Fallout: Tactics (though fighting a behemoth robot at the gates of its lair stands out more in my memory).

Originally posted by pjedilord:
Final battle in Institute was missing spectacular battles,fun blasting though.
The final battles against the Institute are also somewhat unsatisfying for being essentially identical.

They put far more work into fighting the Brotherhood, who is already the most fun to fight due to their mix of troops. You get your choice of a base defense at the Castle (Minutemen), a mixed combat/infiltration (Railroad), or the biggest fight in the game taking the fight head-on at the airport (Institute). The Institute one is particularly involved, with the ongoing fight in general, taking out the jammers to swing things in your favour, defending the hacking synth, and the final stage where Maxson swoops it to be defeated and give you his loot.


Originally posted by alex010300:
Mirelurk Queen and super mutant behemoth is consider as bosses.



Why Institute are wimps? hope bosses improve Fallout 5?
Chunk Norris ☯ Dec 19, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Why are the institute wimps? Ever play Skyrim? The synths felt like skeletons or skeleton mages...yeah they aren't bad, but essentially think of an entire army with just skeleton archers or mages...it'd be kind of weak-sauce.

On a different note...the BOS were the best options for a good enemy...but even they were kind of weak-sauce compared to what they used to be....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7SmlqNCV2I

Ever play tactics? It had a robot army that wanted to rise up that was completely...bad....ass...if they would have made it today it'd be like taking Fallout to fight giant Horizon: Zero Dawn type machines...now take a Horizon Zero Dawn robot and compare it to what is essentially a skeleton mage.

If the institute had giant t-rex robots fighting you or skeleton mages? Which would you think is a better boss?
Last edited by Chunk Norris ☯; Dec 19, 2023 @ 5:14pm
alex010300 Dec 19, 2023 @ 7:10pm 
I tend to go with the BOS ending so the Institute as end boss is quite normal difficulty with some name enemies difficult but the PA BOS with heavy weapons tend to help out with it. Minuteman Ending is more difficult so it takes longer and I have to use heavy weapons like missiles and mini Nukes for some name enemies.
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Date Posted: Dec 17, 2023 @ 3:29pm
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