Why I think Arthur Maxson is misunderstood.

[drakvyr]

I see how some players compare Arthur Maxson to Adolf Hitler, and I think that's ignorant and very hateful.

Arthur was born and grew up in a military life. He was raised as a soldier, and a soldier only. To me, it seems he didn't get to have a childhood because of that. All he knows in his life is the Brotherhood and their ideals, logics, and views. Becoming a leader of a large military group at the young age of 20, already bearing the appearance of a 30 year old man who's been through a lot. Now I know that his backstory may have been bullsh*t, as he was said to have 1. Solo-ed a group of raiders at 12, fought and killed a Deathclaw with a combat knife at 13, took out a Supermutant Leader at 15. Okay his backstory may have been inspired by King Arthur, but still, hard to believe a kid single-handedly killed a deathclaw with a knife.

But it still doesn't change the fact that Arthur still went through a tough life. The reason why Arthur says that every Synth, Supermutant, and Ghoul should be destroyed is because of fear, he's still a young guy who was shielded by a military for a majority of his life. He isn't aware that non-feral Ghouls don't turn feral, even after 2 dam centuries. He is not aware of one Supermutant who is friendly to humans. He is not aware that a lot of Synths aren't Institute spies. He is not aware, because he is terrified.

Even a leader, a tough soldier, can still have fears. To me, the Commonwealth's Brotherhood shouldn't have made him an Elder, probably when he becomes 27 he can be Elder. I believe having a story like that, becoming a leader at such a young age, and aging quick would overwhelm him and give him mental problems. Not to mention how Arthur tries to shoulder a lot of things at once. And don't forget that having empathy, sympathy, and a moral compass isn't common in a military group, especially a post-apocalyptic military group. I do believe Arthur can change into a more understanding person if given the time.

[eMYNOCK]

Look at Liam "Patriot" Binet closely...
why does he puts Synths that ain't fit for duty.. or at high risk to run away onto Field lists?
Because he's a bored, Science Teenager that does Teenager things.
He ain't better that the rest of the Institute People...

Even his Father, altough he won't speak up openly, values Synths as more than just Tools.

He hacks SRB because he can.
He sends unarmed, unprepared, clueless Workers onto their way towards Bunker Hill... not even knowing that the Synths he sends there will run into the Railroad.

Heck, the whole Patriot Setup only shows how clueless he actually is... how surprised he is once the Wanderer (i don't like the other Names) makes contact.

I could not even imagine that he him self is a "Key" Element for the Railroad...
and worse... how willing Desdemona is to let forget about him just to free a final Number of 13 willing Synths.

Ye, a whole lot of 13 Synths.

How special... just because its a literal mass breakeout by Institute Standards.

Without that Contact and without being hypothetically caught any time soon... "Patriot" could have send way more clueless Workers into their doom during his hypothetical lifetime.

Just look at the poor, paranoid, white haired Synth that made it to Far Harbor... 2 Hours on the Island and got eaten by Cannibals.

[PeaceMaker]

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@PeaceMaker
are you sure you describe a courser?
that speech pattern, under closer inspection, resembles the way i my self tend to speak in our other shared Community.

and... i am absolutely sure that i am neither a Synth nor a Xenon...

"SYNTH!" ... or maybe "XENON!"

Your secret is out, I'm telling everyone including the Mods!

[eMYNOCK]

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İlk olarak eMYNOCK tarafından gönderildi:

@PeaceMaker
are you sure you describe a courser?
that speech pattern, under closer inspection, resembles the way i my self tend to speak in our other shared Community.

and... i am absolutely sure that i am neither a Synth nor a Xenon...

"SYNTH!" ... or maybe "XENON!"

Your secret is out, I'm telling everyone including the Mods!

lmao... can you at least point them towards the HQ basement?
If thats all it takes to get out of here i should have said something weird ages ago...

[Teratus]

Generally I try to avoid allying with people who consider themselves "superior" to others and justify violence and even genocide on the grounds that it's a "moral good" or "duty".

Such people are very unstable, and dangerous.

[DouglasGrave]

İlk olarak eMYNOCK tarafından gönderildi:

Look at Liam "Patriot" Binet closely...
why does he puts Synths that ain't fit for duty.. or at high risk to run away onto Field lists?
Because he's a bored, Science Teenager that does Teenager things.
He ain't better that the rest of the Institute People...

Even his Father, altough he won't speak up openly, values Synths as more than just Tools.

He hacks SRB because he can.
He sends unarmed, unprepared, clueless Workers onto their way towards Bunker Hill... not even knowing that the Synths he sends there will run into the Railroad.

Heck, the whole Patriot Setup only shows how clueless he actually is... how surprised he is once the Wanderer (i don't like the other Names) makes contact.

I could not even imagine that he him self is a "Key" Element for the Railroad...
and worse... how willing Desdemona is to let forget about him just to free a final Number of 13 willing Synths.

Ye, a whole lot of 13 Synths.

How special... just because its a literal mass breakeout by Institute Standards.

Without that Contact and without being hypothetically caught any time soon... "Patriot" could have send way more clueless Workers into their doom during his hypothetical lifetime.

Just look at the poor, paranoid, white haired Synth that made it to Far Harbor... 2 Hours on the Island and got eaten by Cannibals.

To be fair to Desdemona, it's Patriot in his clueless innocence who's only aiming to "safely" get thirteen synths out all at once.

Desdemona says that if they do that in a mass breakout they will be the last synths ever saved. Instead of Patriot's safe and non-violent plan (he says to pull the plug if anyone looks like getting hurt), her plan, and that of the Railroad as a whole, is to invade and free all the synths at once.

[Xenon The Noble]

Any synth that would rather suffer the surface in the commonwealth, where the BOS and everyone BUT the RR wants to kill you, rather than clean offices for the Institute, is truly defective

[PeaceMaker]

İlk olarak Xenon The Noble tarafından gönderildi:

Any synth that would rather suffer the surface in the commonwealth, where the BOS and everyone BUT the RR wants to kill you, rather than clean offices for the Institute, is truly defective

That's almost literally what one guy at the institute said about Synths that run for the surface.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

i.e. BoS are a buncha deluded tin fools who don't even remember their first BoS member nor remember their codex.

[Optimus Prime]

Dude killed sarah all i need to know

[Dryden]

It all comes down to whether or not the synths are just really advanced programs utilising the processing power of a biological brain to create human thought processes or if the component is just there as a control device in what is essentially a human.

[Xenon The Noble]

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It all comes down to whether or not the synths are just really advanced programs utilising the processing power of a biological brain to create human thought processes or if the component is just there as a control device in what is essentially a human.

Their DNA has been heavily modified with the FEV. Not technically human as they can't interbreed with humans. Nor can they even breed with each other, so not "life"

[Dryden]

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İlk olarak Dryden tarafından gönderildi:

It all comes down to whether or not the synths are just really advanced programs utilising the processing power of a biological brain to create human thought processes or if the component is just there as a control device in what is essentially a human.

Their DNA has been heavily modified with the FEV. Not technically human as they can't interbreed with humans. Nor can they even breed with each other, so not "life"

There’s also how that Warwick synth apparently doesn’t need to sleep. I also vaguely remember that gen 3 synths don’t age or need to eat or drink.

In any event, my comment was more in terms of ChatGPT running on mostly biological hardware versus a control chip at the centre of the brain.

There isn’t any information in Fallout 4 regarding what the synth component is. Which is the root of the problem for all of these discussions.

Can the institute make synths without the synth component?

[hatta]

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Can the institute make synths without the synth component?

wiki/Android_component

I'm so excited about the Fallout TV series and what it does with the synths and the Institute.
If the series has completely ignored the synths and the Institute, THEN Bethesda's Fallout 4 has to go in the trash, and I urgently want a remake-reboot from another developer.
One (I wish Bend Studio) who can tell the THEMES apart: Synth (a Gothic genre theme) and Android (a Sci-Fi genre theme).

[hatta]

In the remake I imagine it like this:

The Mechanist addon is deleted, everything that the "Automatron DLC" tells about, now belongs to the institute story.
The Institute is essentially a metaphorical narrative from the wiki/Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology
TODAY there they make robots that can respond speech-to-text to human language, like this "MEATDOD" robot dog, and that's where human hearts grow in a Petri dish. etc.
So the institute makes andoids, just like the other two robot companies (Rob Co, General Atomics), so the institute is just a third robot company.
Everything is logical and based, and “on purpose”.

No alien spaceship underground.
no Skyrim Blood Well, where High Fantasy happens through magic.

Synths are born people, who let others write their scripts (emotional life plans).
Everything is logical and based, and “on purpose”.

However, through their biotechnology the insitute were able to gain a greater overview of the cehuehuetiliztli. (see Mama Murphy)
A synth is any resident of the Commonwealth from whom the Institute separates itself.
So "Synth" is simply another word for "cattle" or "human sacrifice of unfavorable emotional derivation activity" or Aztec human sacrifices which wait for the feast on which they are sacrificed.

No synth are the ghouls, the super mutants, and the Raiders.
No synth is the female protagonist.

[hatta]

It's best to just think to yourself:

DAYS GONE (2019) is the "Nuka World DLC".

NERO wiki/National_Emergency_Response_Organization is the same as the wiki/Enclave
who have left their medical camps all over the map and are traveling in helicopters.

The institute is militarily limited only to the "Commonwealth", but the synths are now everywhere in the USA.
All over the USA the synths are driving forward the "rebuilding":
Epidemics REBUILDING: 1 Homelessness an epidemic 2 Drugs an epidemic 3 Simping an epidemic 4 Raider-ism an epidemic 5 Entitlement an epidemic 6 Karens an epidemic 7 Obesity Lymphedema an epidemic, ....
Pornogafien REBUILDING: 1 unhinged raider -ism, 2 Sex (OnlyFans, ...), 3 RasseExloit (Simping Calm the hordes Woyzeck Rabbit cry camping Learn from eachother, ignore Should not deathtraps in favor for imitation of random self interpretation), 4 Violence, 5 child abuse, ...