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Zorro Mar 18, 2016 @ 7:46pm
Spoiler, Glory bug?
The game I'm playing I've recently won with the Minutemen. I was working on some Railroad quests afterwards. Talked to the doctor after I completed one and he said sorry for the over burden but since Glory is gone...

I wasn't aware she left. The drummer said talk to Sesdemona so I did and she started to give me a quest for some L&L gang (never had this one before on my previous playthrough). I had a option to say I miss Glory too. As Desdemona is talking with the camera zoomed in on her Glory walks behind her. What gives?
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Yhwach Mar 18, 2016 @ 7:49pm 
If you beat the game with the minutemen, the railroad / bos aren't supposed to be alive, it treats them as being dead.
Zorro Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:14pm 
Why the talk of her dead though? Why is it their to begin with?
Metro Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Scarecrow:
If you beat the game with the minutemen, the railroad / bos aren't supposed to be alive, it treats them as being dead.
Not true. The Minutemen aren't antagonistic to anyone. That said, in all other endings, even the Railroad ending, Glory dies. My guess is it's just shoddy coding on Bethesda's part and that even in a Minutemen ending where you keep the Railroad and Brotherhood friendly (at least to you) it still treats Glory as having died.
Yhwach Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by Metro:
Originally posted by Scarecrow:
If you beat the game with the minutemen, the railroad / bos aren't supposed to be alive, it treats them as being dead.
Not true. The Minutemen aren't antagonistic to anyone. That said, in all other endings, even the Railroad ending, Glory dies. My guess is it's just shoddy coding on Bethesda's part and that even in a Minutemen ending where you keep the Railroad and Brotherhood friendly (at least to you) it still treats Glory as having died.
You're going from a lore perspective, not a game mechanic perspective; which it may "seem" to be true, the game still treats them as being dead, and you can't argue it using lore.

Lore =/= Mechanics

Either way, they're not meant to be alive, unless you side with them.
Last edited by Yhwach; Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:23pm
Metro Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:27pm 
There is nothing in the Minutemen quests that has you go after either the Railroad or the Brotherhood without player action. You're only given the option to do so IF you proactively go out and start killing Railroad/Brotherhood faction npcs on your own. If you ignore the Railroad and Brotherhood and proceed through the Minutemen questline you'll never be asked to destroy the Prydwynn or the Railroad base.

Last edited by Metro; Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:29pm
Yhwach Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:44pm 
Originally posted by Metro:
There is nothing in the Minutemen quests that has you go after either the Railroad or the Brotherhood without player action. You're only given the option to do so IF you proactively go out and start killing Railroad/Brotherhood faction npcs on your own. If you ignore the Railroad and Brotherhood and proceed through the Minutemen questline you'll never be asked to destroy the Prydwynn or the Railroad base.

You're trying to argue the game's mechanics, which is abit silly on your part; in that ending, they're not "meant" to be alive, so they're treated as such, either by bethesda not knowing what to do with them, or expecting the player to kill them off.
It doesn't matter if you're given quests to kill them or not, they're still treated as being dead.
Last edited by Yhwach; Mar 18, 2016 @ 8:45pm
kelmenwong Mar 18, 2016 @ 9:48pm 
glory is killed if u play another path, i think that's the full railroad chained quests

so, it is a bug
i have the same crap, also stick to minuteman, talk to me that glory is dead, but she just around, but i can't tallk to her

i'm ok with this bug, not like game breaking to me whatever, glory is not hot anyway
Last edited by kelmenwong; Mar 18, 2016 @ 9:49pm
Mech-HAN Mar 18, 2016 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Scarecrow:
If you beat the game with the minutemen, the railroad / bos aren't supposed to be alive, it treats them as being dead.
It's really just bethesda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up of something... they dont even build any real conflict betwen minuteman and railroad, feels like they just add that ending at last minute and dont have time to test and check if there's anything wrong with it...
Last edited by Mech-HAN; Mar 18, 2016 @ 11:20pm
Shahadem Mar 18, 2016 @ 11:26pm 
Why did they decide that Glory should be the one who dies? Why not Desdemona, Deacon, Tinker Tom, that doctor guy, or any of the other Railroad characters I can't stand? Glory is the only Railroad character I like.
Yhwach Mar 18, 2016 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Shahadem:
Why did they decide that Glory should be the one who dies? Why not Desdemona, Deacon, Tinker Tom, that doctor guy, or any of the other Railroad characters I can't stand? Glory is the only Railroad character I like.
Carrington is the one that deserves it the most
Mech-HAN Mar 18, 2016 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Shahadem:
Why did they decide that Glory should be the one who dies? Why not Desdemona, Deacon, Tinker Tom, that doctor guy, or any of the other Railroad characters I can't stand? Glory is the only Railroad character I like.
From game mechanic design view, she's more "expendable", since she's not quest giver or vendor. And from story telling view, the fact she's "the only Railroad character I like" is exactly the reason to be killed, if they just killed of random guy you never cared, then there's no impact made, and no point made (which is kind of where many people dont like fallout 4 beging part since we dont have much care for the kid or spouse)...
tr4l1975 Mar 19, 2016 @ 12:11am 
After this quest is completed, the Brotherhood of Steel and Railroad will treat it as if their main questlines have been completed. This means Glory is considered to be dead (even though she is still alive), and no main quests can be issued from either faction. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Nuclear_Option_%28Minutemen%29
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2016 @ 7:46pm
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