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Maxinho Sep 22, 2023 @ 4:08pm
Is Bethesda even working on that next gen update for Fallout 4?
Anyone know how long we have to wait for it?

I'm enjoying Starfield but ever since I heard about the next gen update I've been postponing finishing F4.
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steventirey Sep 22, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
All we were told is "sometime in 2023", and there are still several months of that left. And someone from Bethesda said a while back that Starfield was their priority.

Other than those two things, all we have gotten is speculation.
Yubss_ Sep 22, 2023 @ 4:56pm 
It's almost definitely going to make a mess of things and never get properly fixed.
Just have fun finishing the game as it is.
Maxinho Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:01pm 
Oh damn, never considered that the update might suck.

You guys really think it's going to make the game a complete mess and not even improve it?
gregnewman2022 Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
I'm tipping that any mods that use F4SE well be useless so I'm guessing poeple will be scrambling to find out which mods use F4SE or not , in particular poeple who have a lot of mods ( like me ) .

As for me . when or IF this ''update'' actually happens , I'm going back to Skyrim as I don't simply don't have the time and patience ( I'm a 60 YO ) to sort this game like I did with
Skyrim . I might reinstall this this game a couple of years from then ( the update ) assuming
I'm still alive to enjoy it .
damion.ord Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:06am 
I just hope the update is optional as like probably most players I modded the game and I reckon the update will brick so many mods, especially F4SE stuff like Greg pointed out above.
Maxinho Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:49am 
Wow, then might be a better idea to finish the game before this happens lmao.

I only have a couple minor mods to help turn the game into a survival game and ramp up the difficulty beyond vanilla limits. So it's just a vanilla experience for me, albeit a much more difficult one, because I enjoy the stealth sniper playstyle.
immatoll Sep 23, 2023 @ 6:21am 
I wonder what "next gen" you actually expect on PC? I do not think that there will be any big changes on PC and it is more of a console update for 4k performance/quality mode + some bugfixes.

I just wish that bethesda one day get some UI/UX Designers on board and get rid of their engine. I could not care less if there are plenty of unnecessary movable objects in the game for persistence to be a reason for this garbage engine. If they would spend even 1/100 of the time putting random junk in areas to designing a proper user experience in their menus... it is so hilarious how StarUI gets a proper inventory within two weeks but bethesda is ridiculous unable to. Their menus are worse than stuff I experience back in the 90s. In my opinion their ignorance needs to get punished by critcs by -10% as long as they keep doing that ♥♥♥♥ on PC.

I really enjoyed Starfield, but damn neither Starfield, Fallout 4 or Skyrim are proper playable on PC with mouse and keyboard without mods. It is like devs want to just enoy us with their bad UIs. Like diablo 4 has proven too lately.
Maxinho Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:52am 
That's a valid argument, Starfield UI is one of the clunkiest I have seen in recent times, it was hard to believe at first. Way worse than Diablo 4.

I was mostly interested in F4 looking better than before and get more fps etc, because I have upgraded to a monster 4090 PC since last time I played it on a 1080Ti, but I suppose their engine has limitations and my expectations may be unrealistic.

Perhaps it would be better to forget about their update and to restart my playthrough, but with a heavily modded setup instead, wouldn't really want to add more content in the game to water down the quality of the existing content (which the game has plenty of for a completionist like me) but I would probably like to smooth out the edges of most Bethesda gameplay mechanics and get in all the quality of life stuff etc, plus better visuals if possible since the game should really fly on this machine.
Last edited by Maxinho; Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:53am
Xenon The Noble Sep 23, 2023 @ 8:26am 
People make mods in the hopes of making money. All the FO4 mod authors have moved on to opportunities making mods for SF, because there's plenty wrong with StarField and opportunities for a popular mod abound.
So, when Bethesda/Microsoft releases an update and breaks many of the FO4 mods, the authors might not be interested profit wise to fix their old FO4 mods.
And the Microsoft Business habit of forcing new releases that breaks 3rd party software is legendary.
Khloros Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:10am 
Honestly though WTF is it even going to be? its not like skyrim SE where they had to upgrade it to work on modern hardware and utilize the newest tech. Is it just going to be a 4k pack?
I would bet you anything they are going to try their hardest to push ray tracing meme in it. But like what else is there?
s.turner3030 Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Max Doge:
Oh damn, never considered that the update might suck.

You guys really think it's going to make the game a complete mess and not even improve it?

Every script extender using mod will need to be updated to the new version.

It will pretty much be the same situation as the Skyrim SE/AE mess, but in Fallout 4.
Last edited by s.turner3030; Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:47pm
.:Jj:. Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Khloros:
Honestly though WTF is it even going to be?
A next-gen update. Update for the next (current) generation of consoles. I'm not sure what exactly are you people wandering about. These updates are very common, to the point of being underwhelmingly boring and not really worth talking about. Barebones uplifting that aims to bring the presentation to a more modern level and push more copies or subscriptions in doing so.

You speak english, right?
A next-gen update is coming to Fallout 4! Coming in 2023, this free update will be available for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5 and Windows PC systems, including performance mode features for high frame rates, quality features for 4K resolution gameplay, bug fixes and even bonus Creation Club content!
https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/article/jfwd8PsUw8r3pKrO1wOc5/fallout25-conclusion-interviews-events-perks
Maxinho Sep 23, 2023 @ 1:49pm 
I always forget that the world revolves around consoles.

So I guess us on the PC won't really benefit much from the update? And if anything it will likely break stuff. I was looking forward to higher frame rates but I know that the game engine cannot handle any of it.

I also never played more than a couple hours of Skyrim and thought maybe I should give that a go when the SE came out. So I'm sad to hear that is a mess as well.
damion.ord Sep 23, 2023 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by .:Jj:.:
Originally posted by Khloros:
Honestly though WTF is it even going to be?
A next-gen update. Update for the next (current) generation of consoles. I'm not sure what exactly are you people wandering about. These updates are very common, to the point of being underwhelmingly boring and not really worth talking about. Barebones uplifting that aims to bring the presentation to a more modern level and push more copies or subscriptions in doing so.

You speak english, right?
A next-gen update is coming to Fallout 4! Coming in 2023, this free update will be available for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5 and Windows PC systems, including performance mode features for high frame rates, quality features for 4K resolution gameplay, bug fixes and even bonus Creation Club content!
https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/article/jfwd8PsUw8r3pKrO1wOc5/fallout25-conclusion-interviews-events-perks

Wandering about. this means walking around aimlessly. Do you mean wondering about. Can you even be bothered to spellcheck and context check your post. And Oh, You People is quite offensive, please clarify and quantify what is meant by "you people"
Mathius Sep 24, 2023 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by .:Jj:.:
A next-gen update. Update for the next (current) generation of consoles. I'm not sure what exactly are you people wandering about. These updates are very common, to the point of being underwhelmingly boring and not really worth talking about. Barebones uplifting that aims to bring the presentation to a more modern level and push more copies or subscriptions in doing so.

You speak english, right?
A next-gen update is coming to Fallout 4! Coming in 2023, this free update will be available for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5 and Windows PC systems, including performance mode features for high frame rates, quality features for 4K resolution gameplay, bug fixes and even bonus Creation Club content!
https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/article/jfwd8PsUw8r3pKrO1wOc5/fallout25-conclusion-interviews-events-perks

This was the argument the last time someone brought this up: https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/3811780955343238862/

People on this board seem to be taking the word "update" literally, and they tried to shout down those of us who argued it might be a separate game entirely.

There is precedence to suggest Bethesda might have used the FO4 assets (or maybe even FO76) as a testing bed for their Starfield "Creation 2" engine upgrades.

That was the story as to why we got Skyrim SE, because they used the Skyrim assets to test the engine upgrades for FO4.

Some people in that thread even said the graphics wouldn't be updated. As if there was a point in calling it a Next Gen update if it wasn't aimed at Next Gen consoles with better graphics?

The primary argument seemed to be that they said it would be a free upgrade, so therefore it would be an update.

Except we also have precedence for that with Skyrim SE, which was free to PC players who already bought the original Skyrim.

As if it wouldn't be totally Bethesda to announce that they "regret" they couldn't make the upgrade free for consoles (or that it's an XBox exclusive!?), but it would be free on PC, and then sit there and watch people buy a copy of the game again while their money rolls in with minimal effort on their part.

The problem is, we apparently have very little information, and this is the internet where everyone can pull a rumor out of their *** and call it a source.
Last edited by Mathius; Sep 24, 2023 @ 1:09am
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