What happened to all female trappers?

[PerLindstrom]

Have they been eaten?

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von asarokk:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sea Prince Gillywix:

This is actually almost a good point, but one thing to remember is that even crazy people are capable of reproduction. The Ravenous wildlife of the Island still manage to reproduce. Another thing to is that it is shown from our interactions with Malcom and those trappers that ate a synth that trappers can have at least enough sanity to do basic decision making and interact with each other on a friendly level. I believe it would be possible for trappers to form relationships and produce babies, but they would be much more reckless with it then a more sane harborman/woman.

Gestation is inherently easier for wildlife than for humans. The pregnancy terms are often shorter, the birthing quicker as well and in most species, the infancy period is much shorter as well. Overall recuperation from the experience is another advantage the wildlife has over humans. I do not share your opinion that trappers would place much importance on reproduction, other than give in to carnal needs. Female trappers that would become impregnated would undoubtedly not last very long in the wild and I don't think other trappers would spare them on the account of their condition nor protect them from the hazards on the islands. From what I've read and experienced, while trappers are consumed by the madness in the fog, they are not friendly at all and would even eat their close friends. Why else would Ware sleep with a knife? I'm more inclined to think trappers would rather eat their infants, than to raise them.

Okay. Lets assume this is true. What would explain the continued presence there? One thing I could potentially see is that all the trappers out there are Harbormen/women that sometime within recent times got lost in the fog. The problem with this is that there is a lot of trappers out there. The trappers seem to greatly outnumber the folks in Far Harbor. However it could also be that the actual canon size and population of Far Harbor is not as small as we see in game.

[asarokk]

Have you forgotten that when the sole survivor arrives in Far Harbor and during his/her stay, the density and spread of the fog is practically record breaking levels. When we arrive, the inhabitants have been pushed to the far edges of the islands in order to escape the fog.

Besides the Children of Atom, the residents are alarmed by it and even go so far as to accuse the Children of being responsible for it. They fear the fog not only for the danger it brings (ergo the local wildlife) but also for whatever is responsible in the fog that drives people to madness. Which is why the inhabitants are so dependent upon fog condensers that keep them save from the properties of the fog and the wildlife that follows.

Have you not noticed the lack of older people on the islands? Other than Longfellow who is tough as nails, the life expectancy of people is significantly shorter than on the mainland. According to Longfellow, the fog is not a constant phenomena on the islands. He remembers a time like now happening in the past when the fog was so spread out and thick. He also knows it will recede on its own in time.

Ware is not even a true believer of Atom and is still willing to serve them, than risk becoming a trapper again. That should speak volumes regarding trapper lifestyle and their relationships. Of course, Malcolm from the quest Turn back the fog is most definitely a trapper and is the only one in my recollection that is able to hold a conversation. Which suggests to me that whatever properties inflict the madness, is in its early stages. Even in its early stages, Malcom has developed a taste for human flesh. When they are far gone, trappers are more beast than men. Or better yet, rabid animals. Even Supermutants show more affection towards each other, than Trappers do.

[Iron Knights]

The females mutated into those monsters.

[Heimdall313]

I never even noticed there's no female trappers lol.

[DouglasGrave]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von asarokk:

From what I've read and experienced, while trappers are consumed by the madness in the fog, they are not friendly at all and would even eat their close friends. Why else would Ware sleep with a knife?

According to his dialogue, the reason for having to sleep with a knife under your pillow as a trapper was to make sure no-one stole your food.

With that as the stated concern, it sounds like they'd definitely be competing for food, but not to the point of killing other trappers to cannibalize them.

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von asarokk:

Have you forgotten that when the sole survivor arrives in Far Harbor and during his/her stay, the density and spread of the fog is practically record breaking levels. When we arrive, the inhabitants have been pushed to the far edges of the islands in order to escape the fog.

Besides the Children of Atom, the residents are alarmed by it and even go so far as to accuse the Children of being responsible for it. They fear the fog not only for the danger it brings (ergo the local wildlife) but also for whatever is responsible in the fog that drives people to madness. Which is why the inhabitants are so dependent upon fog condensers that keep them save from the properties of the fog and the wildlife that follows.

Have you not noticed the lack of older people on the islands? Other than Longfellow who is tough as nails, the life expectancy of people is significantly shorter than on the mainland. According to Longfellow, the fog is not a constant phenomena on the islands. He remembers a time like now happening in the past when the fog was so spread out and thick. He also knows it will recede on its own in time.

Ware is not even a true believer of Atom and is still willing to serve them, than risk becoming a trapper again. That should speak volumes regarding trapper lifestyle and their relationships. Of course, Malcolm from the quest Turn back the fog is most definitely a trapper and is the only one in my recollection that is able to hold a conversation. Which suggests to me that whatever properties inflict the madness, is in its early stages. Even in its early stages, Malcom has developed a taste for human flesh. When they are far gone, trappers are more beast than men. Or better yet, rabid animals. Even Supermutants show more affection towards each other, than Trappers do.

So it is most likely residents of far harbor or the children of atom getting lost in the fog? It would kinda make sense I suppose.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DouglasGrave:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von asarokk:

From what I've read and experienced, while trappers are consumed by the madness in the fog, they are not friendly at all and would even eat their close friends. Why else would Ware sleep with a knife?

According to his dialogue, the reason for having to sleep with a knife under your pillow as a trapper was to make sure no-one stole your food.

With that as the stated concern, it sounds like they'd definitely be competing for food, but not to the point of killing other trappers to cannibalize them.

Sounds like a miserable existance.

[DouglasGrave]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sea Prince Gillywix:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von asarokk:

Have you forgotten that when the sole survivor arrives in Far Harbor and during his/her stay, the density and spread of the fog is practically record breaking levels. When we arrive, the inhabitants have been pushed to the far edges of the islands in order to escape the fog.

Besides the Children of Atom, the residents are alarmed by it and even go so far as to accuse the Children of being responsible for it. They fear the fog not only for the danger it brings (ergo the local wildlife) but also for whatever is responsible in the fog that drives people to madness. Which is why the inhabitants are so dependent upon fog condensers that keep them save from the properties of the fog and the wildlife that follows.

Have you not noticed the lack of older people on the islands? Other than Longfellow who is tough as nails, the life expectancy of people is significantly shorter than on the mainland. According to Longfellow, the fog is not a constant phenomena on the islands. He remembers a time like now happening in the past when the fog was so spread out and thick. He also knows it will recede on its own in time.

Ware is not even a true believer of Atom and is still willing to serve them, than risk becoming a trapper again. That should speak volumes regarding trapper lifestyle and their relationships. Of course, Malcolm from the quest Turn back the fog is most definitely a trapper and is the only one in my recollection that is able to hold a conversation. Which suggests to me that whatever properties inflict the madness, is in its early stages. Even in its early stages, Malcom has developed a taste for human flesh. When they are far gone, trappers are more beast than men. Or better yet, rabid animals. Even Supermutants show more affection towards each other, than Trappers do.

So it is most likely residents of far harbor or the children of atom getting lost in the fog? It would kinda make sense I suppose.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DouglasGrave:

According to his dialogue, the reason for having to sleep with a knife under your pillow as a trapper was to make sure no-one stole your food.

With that as the stated concern, it sounds like they'd definitely be competing for food, but not to the point of killing other trappers to cannibalize them.

Sounds like a miserable existance.

True, but so does being one of the Harbourmen crammed onto a single dock. It's only the Children of Atom who really enjoy life on the Island.

[Cobalt60]

Spend enough time on that island,and you'll be the crazy one. After awhile,the stark,harsh beauty of the landscape grew on me...like a radiation-born fungus. Nope. Had to leave...with my female trapper bride! Mwahahaaha!