Do you consider creation club mods canon or non-canon

[EASY PETE]

Since i noticed the wiki put some creation club mod stuff on there

[mikk011]

Creation Club for FO4 is almost entirely skins and/or cosmetic mods. There isn't much that can be judged in terms of canonical or non-canonical.

[Liquid Inc]

i believe the consensus is it *is* canon, but i couldn't say if that was true or not....

[MBK]

They are not canon

[A Paper Clip]

Creation Club mods are canon. You can even see that Skyrim Anniversary Edition has officially integrated Creation Club Mods as if it's part of the game and not something extra. If Creation Club mods are not canon, that means that the latest official version of Skyrim is non-canon (not true). Fallout 4 next gen update is happening soon, and you know what that means.

[Razer]

Not canon, there's some stuff in there that breaks the 4th wall.

[steventirey]

Until they make a new game and decide what has happened, I would say nothing is canon. After all, what is canon regarding your faction choice? It could be any of them.

Edit: So one of the developers (Emil Pagliarulo) has said:

Fallout 76: Is the Atomic Shop or Creation Club considered canon?:

"Okay, lemme answer this. So... um, Creation Club and Atomic Shop are two very different things, first of all. Creation Club is, let's start there, Creation Club is sort of as close to canon as we can get but also sort of the lines get blurred. So, for example, the team that does the Creation Club stuff always runs fiction by me and says 'would this work? Is this canon? How close is this?' And any time there's any writing or anything that goes into Creation Club, we wanna make sure that it's, y'know, everything fits. So for example, y'know, there was a cyberpunk apartment that went in that you access in Fallout 4 that you access via Goodneighbor. And there was some notes in it, it was like a synth's apartment. So all the fiction there had to be right. It could be canon, it could be... So it's sort of like parallel to canon, almost. It's... we don't wanna limit ourselves. We don't wanna not do something completely. It's tough. Because you don't wanna not do something that would be awesome, because it might get a little close to not being canon. So, it's always a judgement call. We weigh everything.

"It could be canon, it could be... So it's sort of like parallel to canon, almost."

So basically, there is no definite answer. Until Bethesda makes another game, its all in a grey area.

[Razer]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Until they make a new game and decide what has happened, I would say nothing is canon. After all, what is canon regarding your faction choice? It could be any of them.

Edit: So one of the developers (Emil Pagliarulo) has said:

Fallout 76: Is the Atomic Shop or Creation Club considered canon?:

"Okay, lemme answer this. So... um, Creation Club and Atomic Shop are two very different things, first of all. Creation Club is, let's start there, Creation Club is sort of as close to canon as we can get but also sort of the lines get blurred. So, for example, the team that does the Creation Club stuff always runs fiction by me and says 'would this work? Is this canon? How close is this?' And any time there's any writing or anything that goes into Creation Club, we wanna make sure that it's, y'know, everything fits. So for example, y'know, there was a cyberpunk apartment that went in that you access in Fallout 4 that you access via Goodneighbor. And there was some notes in it, it was like a synth's apartment. So all the fiction there had to be right. It could be canon, it could be... So it's sort of like parallel to canon, almost. It's... we don't wanna limit ourselves. We don't wanna not do something completely. It's tough. Because you don't wanna not do something that would be awesome, because it might get a little close to not being canon. So, it's always a judgement call. We weigh everything.

"It could be canon, it could be... So it's sort of like parallel to canon, almost."

So basically, there is no definite answer. Until Bethesda makes another game, its all in a grey area.

Well the thing is. If you say "it could be canon" you're actually saying, it's not canon.

[Zekiran]

They are not.

If it shipped with the original vanilla game, marketed specifically as 'by bethesda' it is canon.

It is not, in fact, shipped and is entirely optional in the game's user base. It cannot be considered canon since it's not by the developers, nor is it upkept by them beyond hosting for download.

If they inserted a redone - non fan created - version of some of that into the game via dlc means, and came out and said specifically "this IS our work and IS part of the Fallout bible", it's canon.

Literally anything shy of that is NOT canon.

Gearbox's Blue Shift and Opposing Forces shipped from Valve, but are still not considered canon beyond what they did with Barney and hinting that Black Mesa was in fact nuked by their own government.

However the rest of it - all of it - is noncanon. They did not make those games, they *distribute* them as part of a deal. But the contents of those things have *been said* not to be canon until they use whatever it is themselves.

So no, nothing made by anyone other than the developer itself, Bethesda in this case and Obsidian in the past, is canon.

A lot of it is obviously very good. But it's still made by fans - who I will remind folks *have not been adequately compensated for this if it 'turns out' canon*.

[Necron Monolith ₿]

I hope not op, 'cause most of those quests are cornier than Iowa.

[Yellowbeard]

Got Interplay / Obsidian?

Got canon?

...but I repeat myself.

[Nate]

I like to believe the Skyrim iron helmet and sword is canon because there were dragon breaks in the Elder Scrolls universe that could have led to the events of Fallout due to a dragon break combining every alternate timeline into one, hence it's destructive nature.

[Xenon The Noble]

No matter how you regard them, someone will jump down your throat and tell you you're wrong... so I believe they're rifles and not Cannons

[EASY PETE]

More like confetti cannon

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Master Neloth:

Since i noticed the wiki put some creation club mod stuff on there

I consider canon to be irrelevant.

Bethesda certainly does.

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

Originally posted by Master Neloth:

Since i noticed the wiki put some creation club mod stuff on there

I consider canon to be irrelevant.

Bethesda certainly does.

Also of note, the wiki =/= official in any way shape or form as it is written by fans only.