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CyberWire Sep 8, 2023 @ 7:49am
charismatic, vats sniper build tips
I want to make a new character that follows a high charisma and vats/sniper/critical build. any tips on which perks I should go for? and also I like the idea of the character being really lucky aswell but from what ive read online luck has very little impact on vats? like it only effects how many shots you need to land in order to get a critical hit or something to that effect, is that really the only effect luck has on a vats build? Also for this build id like the sniping to be as easy as possible, whatever perks are needed to make a vats sniper build that never misses is ideal, ive never used vats before and I think there are perks to shoot through walls and things, is this a good pick?
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dbond1 Sep 8, 2023 @ 8:00am 
There is no level cap so eventually, if you play long enough, you can have any perk.

For Charisma, Local Leader, and for me Lone Wanderer, but that means no companions. But then I don't care about being charismatic, I just want supply lines

Luck is good if you use VATS, and I think you should. I don't use it much in 76, but in FO4 it's awesome. Luck is where you get your criticals and VATS recharge (Grim Reaper, Better Criticals, FLC, Banker, etc), and it's also where you find Idiot Savant, which I think is the best perk in the game, and I would take it first.

I think you need to spec in to Perception for sniper and concentrated fire, and luck for VATS. And probably agility for stealth, which dovetails nicely with a sniper build
Blaquicat Sep 8, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Its a good build, but you need to spend a lot of resources on SPECIAL..
Which means you take a lot on the beginning of the game.

Talking about the basics, you need perception and agility (alot), perception gives VATs accuracy, and agility gives AP.

I don't know about the luck impact on general gameplay, but there's some perks that changes everything
Grim Reaper's Sprint and Four Leaf Clover, maybe a point or two on Critical Banker.
My level 80+ pretty much have infinite vats, and also infinite criticals.
edit: btw, Better Criticals is good later on.

Four left you can have only one point, as the diference from 1 to 4 are little (8% base, 2% per point)
Grim Reaper's Sprint on level 3 is 35% chance to fill AP points, statistically you only have to fire 3 enemies to trigger the perk. (every 2.98 kills)

I think Sniper perk level 2 is great, with a fast weapon, you can stun lock enemies on the ground, i love it.

So you pretty much need to spend some points into specials, which can be expensive..
But worth it.

Try to farm some legendaries, cunning is best for this build..
Last edited by Blaquicat; Sep 8, 2023 @ 8:12am
Death Approaches Sep 8, 2023 @ 8:23am 
the game is quite old, this is about as close to trolling as you can get and still seem legit. You know how many HUNDREDS of sites have "bestest evah blah/blah Fallout 4 builds!" heh

but I've had a lot of coffee and type really fast and I can't currently game for a few more hours... so... forum posts!

note this is not NV nor 3, there is no cap unless you mod, you can play until everything is maxxed, every perk earned, every SPECIAL is 11 plus boosts... So what you mean, is what should you unlock first. Now, if you're using a limiter mod that caps leveling to 35th, that's different, we can discuss what you need to unlock...

But you still will not ever see 100% accuracy in VATS, ever, even if your accuracy is guaranteed, 200% or more... VATS never shows more than 95%. That's BethesdaThink (tm) in action!

Like "penetrator" you mention, that is a perception perk, and near the highest one, 9 or 10 required, and second rank isn't possible til 28th, and in VATS it's devastating, if you can target them you can hit them... through anything. through walls, whole buildings. Even underground, shoot through packed earth. It's comically OP.

But if you choose say 4 PER at start and then have to use 6 level-up perks to reach 10, because for a VATS sniper, not taking Concentrated Fire to lvl 3 would be silly - it's literally made for you. (each shot to same body part gains 20% accuracy and 20% damage, stacking.)

And critical hits YOU control, that bar that builds up at the bottom that you fire off, so you definitely want some high LCK so you can get 6/7/8/9 at least 3 ranks of all those is 16 levels, but with crit banker, better crits, grim reaper's spirit, and 4 leaf clover, you'll build up and refill crits about every 3rd hit.

Remember VATS is dice rollin'... straight numbers. Stuff like ADS vs scope or sighted vs hipfire, means nothing in VATS. Straight numbers. Even took away the fun DT/DR of the others, this one is damage type vs armor type, resist vs damage, good ol subtraction. There's websites that will show you the breakdown of damage in realtime vs VATS, it's pretty wild.

Finally, remember THIS IS A FALLOUT GAME. This isn't Dark Souls III. Even on Survival difficulty with all 5s for SPECIALs and every enemy with a bright red skull telling you to run, you can be methodical and kill everyone without taking damage. Especially a VATS player.

So don't put too much effort into your planning, unless you're going to use a level cap mod for the challenge. :radiationsymbol:
tbloyzz Sep 8, 2023 @ 8:34am 
Not sure why you want high charisma, but if it is only to succeed in the dialogue checks (and NOT for the reasons dbond1 mentioned), I would rather create some grape mentats and wear charisma enhancing gear.
Even IF you want to get the loner perk, you should probably focus on other things first and increase your charisma only after you have collected any companion perk that you desire.
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