Why does the Prydwen appear after killing Kellogg?

[Xenon The Noble]

It should appear shortly after SS helps Danse get the communications gadget from Arcjet, and Danse calls for help to destroy the commonwealth ... uh... to kill off the Institute, RR all synths and anyone who gets into their way, and rob a few farmers, and you know, do all those good things that are totally good, moral and just cuz "no survivors", "no mercy" and "For honor and glory"

Only showing up after killing Kellogg makes no sense to me, unless Kellogg was a double agent and also working for the Institute. "Come on, my Brother!" Elder Maxson says to the Brotherhood "they killed off two recon teams which is no biggie, but now the commonwealth has gone too far and killed Paladin Kellogg! Many of you will die, but we now go to avenge his death!" Nah. Even that doesn't make sense.

[socialmediaaddress3]

It has to show up sometime.
And its not going to be immediate after arcjet.
After killing Kellog is as good a time as any :)

[worm_master]

even funyer? u go back to Fort Strong with the BOS only this time you have to clear out super mutants, which some-how moved in between u killing kellogg and the Pwredwyn appearing....

[hawkeye]

Plot twist - just when you think your troubles are over and things are looking good, expect the unexpected. It's similar to Bleak Falls Barrow. You finally get to the treasure chest, get a shout, some loot and feeling good about things until the lid pops off the top of the coffin. Visual surprises work best.

[Immortalis]

Correlation does not imply causation.

The BOS arrival and the SS killing Kellog are two completely different events, which have no connection whatsoever. Implying it does is a logical fallacy on your part, simple as that.

[worm_master]

Publicado originalmente por Immortalis:

Correlation does not imply causation.

The BOS arrival and the SS killing Kellog are two completely different events, which have no connection whatsoever. Implying it does is a logical fallacy on your part, simple as that.

Not according to Bsoft dude, as u know full well, the Pred don't appear until u kill kellogg, who worked for the institute, it's reasonable to think there's a connection, it's certainly hinted at..

Remember Maxim says they detected high energy spikes? Well after killing Kellogg the Institute "came alive". Going to need extra Synths an all to deal with the BOS...

[Xenon The Noble]

Publicado originalmente por socialmediaaddress3:

It has to show up sometime.
And its not going to be immediate after arcjet.
After killing Kellog is as good a time as any :)

You don't even have to do the Arcjet quest, so Danse has no way to communicate, and it will show up.
heck you can kill Danse, Rhys and Haylen before doing Arcjet, and it will still show up. It makes no sense. Elder Maxson still talks about the communication from Danse about the energy signatures.
Unless Mama Murphy talked to them, and with the sight told Maxon about the energy signatures, it makes no sense.

[Xenon The Noble]

Publicado originalmente por Immortalis:

Correlation does not imply causation.

The BOS arrival and the SS killing Kellog are two completely different events, which have no connection whatsoever. Implying it does is a logical fallacy on your part, simple as that.

I would like causation to be causation. When Danse sends the signal after Arcjet, THEN the Prydwen should appear. Elder Maxson even says that is the reason for his invasion: someone has tech that he deems dangerous, so either he gets it, or everyone involved has to be kiiled.

I guess my point is the "cause" of his arrival doesn't even have to happen. It's tied to killing Kellogg and the assumption that the game designers made is that you side with the BOS at least for the Arcjet quest

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Publicado originalmente por worm_master:

even funyer? u go back to Fort Strong with the BOS only this time you have to clear out super mutants, which some-how moved in between u killing kellogg and the Pwredwyn appearing....

Uhh, Kellogg was in Fort Hagen not Fort Strong . . . Did you even play the game that far???

[Xenon The Noble]

If you don't want the MM, don't let garvey free. You can still do the Main Quest to find Shaun
Don't want the RR, don't go to Church. You can still do the main quest to find shaun
Don't want the BOS , HAHAHAHAHAHAH... uhhhhh HAHHAHAHAH!

[worm_master]

Publicado originalmente por JDaremo Fireheart:

Publicado originalmente por worm_master:

even funyer? u go back to Fort Strong with the BOS only this time you have to clear out super mutants, which some-how moved in between u killing kellogg and the Pwredwyn appearing....

Uhh, Kellogg was in Fort Hagen not Fort Strong . . . Did you even play the game that far???

Yeah with over 1k h.. I should say so... To err is human, to admit is divine, I made a mistake, no need to be so rude!

[JDaremo Fireheart]

Publicado originalmente por Xenon The Noble:

If you don't want the MM, don't let garvey free. You can still do the Main Quest to find Shaun
Don't want the RR, don't go to Church. You can still do the main quest to find shaun
Don't want the BOS , HAHAHAHAHAHAH... uhhhhh HAHHAHAHAH!

Yeah, but afaik you need the RR to decode that chip. BoS can't do it.

[Docsprock]

I'm pretty sure it was planned this way, so when you exit the Fort, the Prydwen is right overhead in all its glory as it arrives in the Commonwealth.

Strictly a theatrical ploy.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

I think they had it planned for us to just blindly follow the main quest based on that it would not be that long after Danse called them and it took time for them to arrive.

This however does not explain their appearance if we never help Danse.

So they must expect us to believe they were already on their way and that it just happens to be when a coincidence it happen at that time.

[jynx]

They were racing that crashing UFO.

[valerian68]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30147