HELP if you're familiar with MODDING F4 in MO2 and Bethini.

[naomha]

Using Wabbajack. Awesome tool btw. Much easier to use than Vortex on its best day. Anyway, I have a single issue. When using Vortex and Bethini I could get F4 to play in my fullscreen rez which is 3440x1440. However, I can NOT get it to run fullscreen using Wabbajack no matter what I do to the pref.ini for F4.

Now, using Wabbajack with MO2 I KNOW you can use Bethini using your ini path in MO2. However, I do NOT know how to have MO2 use Bethini to make these ini changes.

Now, I was told to go the set up tab in MO2 and select the profile I wished to use via the "INI Path" setting. However, I have zero idea where that is as I don't see a setting that allows this.
Any help would be HUGELY appreciated with this and thanks!

[mikk011]

Here's my take on some Bethini basics/good practices:

-As you said, once correctly installed MO2 uses its own ini files. Those are located in <install location for MO2>/profiles
-Your Bethini app should not be in either your game folder or your MO2 folder. Mine is on the same drive as Steam and my MO portable installation for FO4, but in a separate folder for modding tools.
-The bethini app should not be set to run as a MO2 executable (ie run Bethini as a freestanding app).
-The bethini app should be run with MO2 closed.

Last, and most important, your bethini app must point at the MO2 profile you want to edit. When you run bethini, click on the "Setup" tab, make sure the game path and the path to your MO2 installation are both correct, then use the "Ini Path" dropdown to navigate to your MO2 directory and select the Profile folder you want to edit. I suspect your problem is that one or more of the filepaths on this setup screen are not correct.

You might consider uninstalling and reinstalling Bethini. Two resources that might help are the Readme in the bethini download and also the bethini resources in the Project S.T.E.P guide. The following S.T.E.P link is for Skyrim SE (there isn't a STEP guide for FO4 AFAIK), but the information can give you valuable guidance for your FO4 Setup. https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimSE:2.2.0#BethINI_Setup

I hope some of this helps. Good luck!

[Wasteland Project]

Tip: If Vortex works transfer Wabbajack mods content to Vortex for that game and stop using it.
Choose the game, a game that Vortex certainly supports and also choose a profile that allows the resolution obtained with Bethini.

[naomha]

Originally posted by mikk011:

Here's my take on some Bethini basics/good practices:

-As you said, once correctly installed MO2 uses its own ini files. Those are located in <install location for MO2>/profiles
-Your Bethini app should not be in either your game folder or your MO2 folder. Mine is on the same drive as Steam and my MO portable installation for FO4, but in a separate folder for modding tools.
-The bethini app should not be set to run as a MO2 executable (ie run Bethini as a freestanding app).
-The bethini app should be run with MO2 closed.

Last, and most important, your bethini app must point at the MO2 profile you want to edit. When you run bethini, click on the "Setup" tab, make sure the game path and the path to your MO2 installation are both correct, then use the "Ini Path" dropdown to navigate to your MO2 directory and select the Profile folder you want to edit. I suspect your problem is that one or more of the filepaths on this setup screen are not correct.

You might consider uninstalling and reinstalling Bethini. Two resources that might help are the Readme in the bethini download and also the bethini resources in the Project S.T.E.P guide. The following S.T.E.P link is for Skyrim SE (there isn't a STEP guide for FO4 AFAIK), but the information can give you valuable guidance for your FO4 Setup. https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimSE:2.2.0#BethINI_Setup

I hope some of this helps. Good luck!

Vastly helpful and totally figured it out. Thanks a lot. I had to go into MO2 and point to the ini path for Bethini ini for F4 startup configs. Works like a charm and F4 is in glorious 3440x1440.

Originally posted by Wasteland Project:

Tip: If Vortex works transfer Wabbajack mods content to Vortex for that game and stop using it.
Choose the game, a game that Vortex certainly supports and also choose a profile that allows the resolution obtained with Bethini.

Why in the world would I have done that? 200+ mods? I would have had to totally uninstall every single mod and all the tools and F4 and delete all older ini files left in MyGames/Fallout4. Then, install a fresh copy of the game with Vortex running and then, manually, one by one, install all those mods again?

Vortex is a fantastic tool, it truly is. Quite powerful and does a LOT. However, Wabbajack with MO2 is just, well, better. With Vortex it can be a hot mess with anything over 50 mods with WryeBash and LOOT and setting orders, etc. Wabba and MO2 just does it all better and it looks much, much nicer.

[mikk011]

Glad you figured things out :)

[Truffles]

Hoping to get some help as this seems like my issue. I installed FO4 from XBOX gamepass to:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content`

In Bethini I have my Gamepath set to that same directory. I have INI path set to:
`C:\Users\$username\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Fallout 4\profiles\Default\`

My MO2 Settings show the base directory as:
C:/Users/$username/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4

The Profiles directory as:
`%BASE_DIR%/profiles`

And the managed game directory as:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content\Fallout4.exe`

I updated the related settings per the installation guide here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/65677

and have that mod installed and managed in MO2.

I've tried launching the game from MO2, launching the FO2 launcher from MO2, launching the game from the XBOX app, etc. and all seem to revert to the old resolution and aspect ratio limits, not the new ultrawide ones I've set and saved in Bethini.

Suggestions?

[naomha]

Originally posted by Truffles:

Hoping to get some help as this seems like my issue. I installed FO4 from XBOX gamepass to:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content`

In Bethini I have my Gamepath set to that same directory. I have INI path set to:
`C:\Users\$username\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Fallout 4\profiles\Default\`

My MO2 Settings show the base directory as:
C:/Users/$username/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4

The Profiles directory as:
`%BASE_DIR%/profiles`

And the managed game directory as:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content\Fallout4.exe`

I updated the related settings per the installation guide here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/65677

and have that mod installed and managed in MO2.

I've tried launching the game from MO2, launching the FO2 launcher from MO2, launching the game from the XBOX app, etc. and all seem to revert to the old resolution and aspect ratio limits, not the new ultrawide ones I've set and saved in Bethini.

Suggestions?

You HAVE to have MO2 POINT to the ini settings for Bethini to run in your resolution you want. It's been a minute but I'll have to go back into MO2 and see if I can remember how I did it. I do know that the path settings are located in MO2 to target Bethini. It wasn't hard at all. Just took me a minute to figure out what the ♥♥♥♥ I was doing wrong before.

[naomha]

Originally posted by Truffles:

Hoping to get some help as this seems like my issue. I installed FO4 from XBOX gamepass to:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content`

In Bethini I have my Gamepath set to that same directory. I have INI path set to:
`C:\Users\$username\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Fallout 4\profiles\Default\`

My MO2 Settings show the base directory as:
C:/Users/$username/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4

The Profiles directory as:
`%BASE_DIR%/profiles`

And the managed game directory as:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content\Fallout4.exe`

I updated the related settings per the installation guide here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/65677

and have that mod installed and managed in MO2.

I've tried launching the game from MO2, launching the FO2 launcher from MO2, launching the game from the XBOX app, etc. and all seem to revert to the old resolution and aspect ratio limits, not the new ultrawide ones I've set and saved in Bethini.

Suggestions?

Also, before I forget. Did you MANUALLY CHANGE the ini settings to fit your widescreen rez? Most Bethesda games won't auto-correct for your widescreen rez. You usually have to manually set the ini, then save it, then have MO2 and Bethini running.

[Truffles]

Originally posted by naomha:

Originally posted by Truffles:

Hoping to get some help as this seems like my issue. I installed FO4 from XBOX gamepass to:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content`

In Bethini I have my Gamepath set to that same directory. I have INI path set to:
`C:\Users\$username\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Fallout 4\profiles\Default\`

My MO2 Settings show the base directory as:
C:/Users/$username/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4

The Profiles directory as:
`%BASE_DIR%/profiles`

And the managed game directory as:
`C:\XboxGames\Fallout 4 (PC)\Content\Fallout4.exe`

I updated the related settings per the installation guide here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/65677

and have that mod installed and managed in MO2.

I've tried launching the game from MO2, launching the FO2 launcher from MO2, launching the game from the XBOX app, etc. and all seem to revert to the old resolution and aspect ratio limits, not the new ultrawide ones I've set and saved in Bethini.

Suggestions?

You HAVE to have MO2 POINT to the ini settings for Bethini to run in your resolution you want. It's been a minute but I'll have to go back into MO2 and see if I can remember how I did it. I do know that the path settings are located in MO2 to target Bethini. It wasn't hard at all. Just took me a minute to figure out what the ♥♥♥♥ I was doing wrong before.

Originally posted by naomha:

Also, before I forget. Did you MANUALLY CHANGE the ini settings to fit your widescreen rez? Most Bethesda games won't auto-correct for your widescreen rez. You usually have to manually set the ini, then save it, then have MO2 and Bethini running.

Appreciate the responses. I have attempted manually changing the ini settings in MO2, as well as having Bethini change them and verifying them. They appear to do the same thing outside of the custom config which I have in place.

In reviewing what I showed above for my settings, they appear to both be pointing to the same ini path, no? I notice a difference between forward and back slashes, but that seems to be the format they use for those in different fields... Can you post your paths for each app?

[sdack]

Originally posted by Truffles:

In reviewing what I showed above for my settings, they appear to both be pointing to the same ini path, no? I notice a difference between forward and back slashes, but that seems to be the format they use for those in different fields... Can you post your paths for each app?

I do not use the tools you are using, but if these use profiles then chances are that each profile has not only its own set of mods but will also have its own set of .ini files. You will then have to find where it keeps the profile-specific .ini files and edit those as the ones under Documents\My Games\Fallout4\ will get overwritten with each change of profile.

Alternatively, you could also try to switch to the profile, edit the .ini files in the Documents folder, and see whether your tools pick up these changes when changing profiles.

Anyhow, this is what I would look out for first.

[naomha]

Originally posted by Truffles:

Originally posted by naomha:

You HAVE to have MO2 POINT to the ini settings for Bethini to run in your resolution you want. It's been a minute but I'll have to go back into MO2 and see if I can remember how I did it. I do know that the path settings are located in MO2 to target Bethini. It wasn't hard at all. Just took me a minute to figure out what the ♥♥♥♥ I was doing wrong before.

Originally posted by naomha:

Also, before I forget. Did you MANUALLY CHANGE the ini settings to fit your widescreen rez? Most Bethesda games won't auto-correct for your widescreen rez. You usually have to manually set the ini, then save it, then have MO2 and Bethini running.

Appreciate the responses. I have attempted manually changing the ini settings in MO2, as well as having Bethini change them and verifying them. They appear to do the same thing outside of the custom config which I have in place.

In reviewing what I showed above for my settings, they appear to both be pointing to the same ini path, no? I notice a difference between forward and back slashes, but that seems to be the format they use for those in different fields... Can you post your paths for each app?

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by Truffles:

In reviewing what I showed above for my settings, they appear to both be pointing to the same ini path, no? I notice a difference between forward and back slashes, but that seems to be the format they use for those in different fields... Can you post your paths for each app?

I do not use the tools you are using, but if these use profiles then chances are that each profile has not only its own set of mods but will also have its own set of .ini files. You will then have to find where it keeps the profile-specific .ini files and edit those as the ones under Documents\My Games\Fallout4\ will get overwritten with each change of profile.

Alternatively, you could also try to switch to the profile, edit the .ini files in the Documents folder, and see whether your tools pick up these changes when changing profiles.

Anyhow, this is what I would look out for first.

This. I don't have MO2 installed any longer or F4. I will say that what this last poster said in his response is the ticket. There are a couple of ini paths you have to worry about. I do believe the ini path you want to follow is the ini path for Fallout 4 MO2. I do believe, if I remember correctly, that on the MO2 page there's an actual HELP? description that led me to fixing the issue with the resolution. I'm so sorry. I wish I still had it installed and could just fire it up for you and locate the issue but it's been a hot minute since I used it.

Check this. Maybe this will help. I do know that MO2 uses it own ini files. So they should be located at X (your drive) back slash (my button doesn't work currently) profiles. So it would like like C (backslash) MO2 (backslash) profiles

I do KNOW that MO2 REPLACES the ini files using its own when running. You have to run the MO2 launcher to make it so. You can also add multiple profiles for MO2. ie, you have a heavily modded game, a lightly modded game and a vanilla version running. You can have profiles for all 3 if you wished it.

Lastly, if you don't know (you probably do) but you have to use the MO2 editor button to make it happen so.

Depending on your install the path may also look like C:\Users\(YourUser)\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Skyrim Special Edition\profiles\Default.

[Dregor]

C:\Users\UserName\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Fallout4Prefs.ini

Size W=x
iSize H=y

Also custompref in same spot.

MO2 uses its own temp ini though.

[naomha]

Originally posted by Dregor:

C:\Users\UserName\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Fallout4Prefs.ini

Size W=x
iSize H=y

No. MO2 uses its own ini path. It's actually what I typed above. What you posted is the vanilla version of F4 ini path.