Subversion Mod - Danse Hates Me

[LemonDrop]

Hey all,
So I recently downloaded the amazing Subversion Mod on PC where I can convince the railroad not to blow up the institute, and convince Father to replace Elder Maxon with a synth. I thought this would be the perfect way to achieve peace in the commonwealth without pissing off any of my companions. Well, Danse hates me. And I think it's because the game thinks I blew up the Prydwen, even though I'm still "friends" with the BOS and can teleport to and from the airship. This is because of a paper Piper wrote called "Fear the Future?" Where she mentions the Prydwen being embers. I've tried every Mod and console command I can think of and find to make Danse not hate me, but he keeps saying I'm a disgrace to my uniform and that he'd "take care of me by now" if Maxson didn't tolerate me. Can anyone help me with a way for him to not hate me again? Perhaps somehow to restore the Prydwen even though it's still there? Thanks in advance!

[Zekiran]

You can't install it once you've passed the point where you ally with one specific group.

It has to be with you working with ALL of them somewhat equally, and long before any end-game things happen.

I'd suggest perhaps, put it in a different part of your load order and make sure that there are NO other overarching mods that may have affected any outcomes. Find a manual save from well before you might have chosen to work only with one group, and try again from there.

It's a very finicky mod, indeed. But it's best to have it installed and working properly before you start getting too close to the turning point. If piper thought something had happened, also you might check your completed quests list in your pipboy. I can't remember what might trigger that specifically by name.

[Barefoot]

straight from the mod site

Q: How does Paladin Danse fit into this mod?
A: As in vanilla, he stops being your companion if you become hostile with the Brotherhood of Steel. If you replace Maxson and become Sentinel, he can become your companion again, albeit under very different rules. He will still hate you but affinity will no longer matter. He can be taken alongside other companions as he is no longer using the old companion system. If he was exposed as a synth before Maxson was replaced, Synth Maxson will reinstate him. If he becomes Elder (Danse Dilemma mod outcome) you can have Father and SRB reset him to avoid having to destroy the Prydwen. A reset Danse may become your companion if you convince the SRB to allow it. Paladin Danse also rejoins you if Sarah Lyons reinstates you into the Brotherhood.

[LemonDrop]

Originally posted by Barefoot:

straight from the mod site

Q: How does Paladin Danse fit into this mod?
A: As in vanilla, he stops being your companion if you become hostile with the Brotherhood of Steel. If you replace Maxson and become Sentinel, he can become your companion again, albeit under very different rules. He will still hate you but affinity will no longer matter. He can be taken alongside other companions as he is no longer using the old companion system. If he was exposed as a synth before Maxson was replaced, Synth Maxson will reinstate him. If he becomes Elder (Danse Dilemma mod outcome) you can have Father and SRB reset him to avoid having to destroy the Prydwen. A reset Danse may become your companion if you convince the SRB to allow it. Paladin Danse also rejoins you if Sarah Lyons reinstates you into the Brotherhood.

Thank you! I am new to mods and had no idea there were websites attached, would you mind telling me how I can find them?

[eMYNOCK]

do a search for subversion on nexus.. and also search for danse dilemma.

or wait for me to dig up the site...

edit:
subversion
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50975

danse dilemma
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21923


anyway, as you have to follow the institute path to take it over subsequently you have to betray the BoS at Mass Fusion... Danse sees this as if you would betray him personally and will hate you for that.

Maxon may reinstate you and give you the Sentinel Title that allows you to Boss Danse around... but he will still think of you as the Traitor.
Same if you become Elder via the Danse dilemma Mod.

However, if Danse him self becomes Elder and you reset him by talking to Alana Secord he will forget about that and gets the impression you were just undercover of sorts.
No hard feelings and he will even be very cordial when adressing you (almost like a romanced character).

[LemonDrop]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

do a search for subversion on nexus.. and also search for danse dilemma.

or wait for me to dig up the site...

edit:
subversion
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50975

danse dilemma
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21923


anyway, as you have to follow the institute path to take it over subsequently you have to betray the BoS at Mass Fusion... Danse sees this as if you would betray him personally and will hate you for that.

Maxon may reinstate you and give you the Sentinel Title that allows you to Boss Danse around... but he will still think of you as the Traitor.
Same if you become Elder via the Danse dilemma Mod.

However, if Danse him self becomes Elder and you reset him by talking to Alana Secord he will forget about that and gets the impression you were just undercover of sorts.
No hard feelings and he will even be very cordial when adressing you (almost like a romanced character).

Wonderful, thank you!

[Zekiran]

This is why I kind of gave up on it, because wow do I hate the Brotherhood so much. I did WANT to do the 'replacement' thing, so I hope you manage to do that!

[eMYNOCK]

if you really don't like them... its the perfect punishment... new leader is a synth, the traitor a sentinel... and the institute roams around the check points.

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

if you really don't like them... its the perfect punishment... new leader is a synth, the traitor a sentinel... and the institute roams around the check points.

I know, the problem for me personally is that I have never been able to stand dealing with Maxson long enough to resist shooting him in the face.

[eMYNOCK]

resist.. and you will have your sweet, sweet opportunity to totally legally shoot him... loot his sweet, sweet Unique PA Pieces, weapon and cloth... and with one or two extra mods that i can not name because they violate forum rules and got me banned from an other game forum you can humilate him even further without actually killing him.

you know... like degrade him into your personal Cup bearer...

but thats JUST BUSINESS.

[LemonDrop]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

if you really don't like them... its the perfect punishment... new leader is a synth, the traitor a sentinel... and the institute roams around the check points.

Quick question, I made Danse the Elder of the BOS but when I dismiss him to a settlement he doesn't actually go to the settlement, just leaves for the Prydwen. Is there any way I can get him to stay at a settlement when I dismiss him or does he have to return to the Prydwen since he's the elder now?

[eMYNOCK]

No, but thats a Mod limitation.
As Danse is not a Vanilla Companion anymore he has to go back to his Spawn Point.

Same for Glory, Mutant-Virgil and Z-Something you work with when doing the Railroad Escape...

As hes is the Elder... just pretend he has important BoS Work to attend to.