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iriemk Jun 28, 2023 @ 10:46pm
HELP / GRAPHICS / GHOSTING
I am at my wits end and looking for support. I experimented with weather mods for my test setup, namely Vivid Weathers, fiddled around with the lighting settings in there, until my game looked absolutely horrifying, Disabled the mod, and got some weird ghosting effect I never saw before. Fiddled with texture replacers I had, all to no avail.

Threw the towel finally after a day, and since it was time to re-do this test-setup properly anyway, I did a clean sweep. Uninstalled FO4, uninstalled MO2 and even re-formatted my mod drive.

But I am still getting the ghosting effect while moving and panning around, everything has a second, bright translucent outline that shifts in the direction of my char's movement.

Edit:
OS: Win 10
Processor: i713700kf 3.5ghz with 32GB RAM
GPU: Gigabyte AMD RX 7900 XTX 24GB
Screen: ASUS TUF Gaming VG279QM
Last edited by iriemk; Jun 29, 2023 @ 2:12am
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Zekiran Jun 28, 2023 @ 11:29pm 
Did you start a completely new game after that or did you attempt to open older saves?

Do you have any screeshots?

Some mod organizers use a different ini file than you expect, and place it in equally unexpected locations, it's possible that the mod has permanently changed the ini.

Would probably help to see the effects though, if you have screenies.
iriemk Jun 28, 2023 @ 11:42pm 
Same on new game. But like I said, there is currently no trace of MO2's old custom ini's on my drive. I looked at the savegame file with resaver, there is nothing to indicate anything was left over. That save file was made on a completely vanilla (and CC-content) game, even before I installed MO2 and the first mod. It was sitting in a seperate folder outside of FO4 and was re-imported after I nuked the setup, so I didn't expect to find anything, but just to be sure.

But I am seeing something very similar, though not nearly as pronounced, with Conan Exiles. Getting the sneaking feeling this might have to do with my GPU settings, not mods.
Last edited by iriemk; Jun 28, 2023 @ 11:47pm
iriemk Jun 28, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
Alright this is very odd. Tried taking screenshots, but the ghost ouline wont show on the images. When I re-size the steam client's window, the ghost duplicate appears in the screenshot, but only for as long as I move the mouse; when I hold still it's not there.

Any idea what this is? Graphics drivers are brand new.
Last edited by iriemk; Jun 28, 2023 @ 11:58pm
Zekiran Jun 29, 2023 @ 12:13am 
Have you tried reconnecting the monitor? Sometimes that may just be a loose connection. Honestly sometimes it's the stupid stuff :D

Also "new" driver might not be the "right" one, maybe try rolling it back to an earlier one?
Bored Peon Jun 29, 2023 @ 12:23am 
When you reinstalled the game did One Drive download your old INIs?

I would definitely do a thorough search for "Fallout4.ini" in your PC just to make sure it aint stuffed anywhere.

...and of course after I wrote that I saw the other post, but leaving the info up for people searching and troubleshooting.
Originally posted by iriemk:
But I am seeing something very similar, though not nearly as pronounced, with Conan Exiles. Getting the sneaking feeling this might have to do with my GPU settings, not mods.

I would reinstall the drivers because you are seeing traces of it in other games.
I would also check on your refresh rate the monitor is set at.
iriemk Jun 29, 2023 @ 12:26am 
When I wrote brand new, I meant it. Installed new AMD driver and Adrenalin only 10 minutes prior to my post here as part of my repair efforts. Though I had no problem with the old driver to begib with.

What refresh rate would be ideal for FO4, there's another bug concerned with that from what I read. It is set at 60 per display settings, I never fiddled with it. And up until I had no reason to since it worked.
Last edited by iriemk; Jun 29, 2023 @ 1:57am
iriemk Jun 29, 2023 @ 2:49am 
Yeah. This isn't just in the game.

I see it too when I scroll in my windows system settings left panel, where the background is a wee bit darker. The black letters are trailing a bright outline when they move up/down.
It's either something in my AMD software or my monitor settings I am not aware of.

EDIT: UN. FRIGGIN. BELIEVABLE. Just turned my monitor off, to connect to a different PC, then switched back - and my problems are almost gone. It's still there, but only barely perceptible in dimly lit areas (like the crowded "storage" area in the back of Homeplate) where the bright outline is better visible. Looks more like a bad motion blur now.
Last edited by iriemk; Jun 29, 2023 @ 3:07am
Zekiran Jun 29, 2023 @ 12:27pm 
The monitor OR the cable then?

It seems like hardware issues. Is the POWER supply to that monitor failing?

I had an issue that my HOUSE had circuits that were garbage and the monitor had to be strung out to another plug because it wouldn't even start if I had my computer running...
iriemk Jun 29, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Mainly the GPU, and some monitor settings. Dunno why the monitor on/off did anything that one time, maybe it kicked a lingering entry for something out. No clue. Anyhoo, the ugly s*** ghost effect is significantly dimished when I disable most my AMD settings in Adrenalin, especially Freesync & vsync. The complete opposite to most guides on the matter I have read. C***shoot..

What helped most though was to thoroughly stomp out ♥♥♥♥♥ godrays with a little ini tweak. After that, game was playable again, so now to run through the damn DLCs in Vanilla, then go modding again^^.

Still, if anyone read this who's got some real insight into these graphics hardware/software issues, I'd greatly appreciate some knowledge dropped on me. Cheers, your friendly neighborhood Semi-Luddite^^
Zekiran Jun 29, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
Oh yeah dude godrays are teh debbil. Screenspace reflections (water) are also a huge hit on performance, might drop or remove that.
iriemk Jun 29, 2023 @ 4:37pm 
Look at my specs. Lack of "Oomph!" to run this with pretty graphics ain't the problem. My game runs on all high or ultra settings, smooth & stable with FPS locked via AMD settings @60 Fps in Vanilla, and locked @120 with FPS fix mod when it is installed again - one of the first things I'll get to cut down that godawful time-suck on load. The only issue here was that darned ghosting effect that appeared out of thin air. Count that under performance if you like, but everything else was/is fine.

With mods installed, I get 1 ctd about every 80-100h of playtime; in vanilla -as is now- I have not had a single one on this system. But trust me, I know all about FO4 and the "performance" issues, I used to play on an old 2nd gen i7/8gb RAM/4GB GPU system. It sucks ***.
Zekiran Jun 29, 2023 @ 5:02pm 
Right but what you describe... since it won't come up on a screenshot really does sound more like a hardware / cable issue than anything else.
Iron Knights (Banned) Jun 29, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
Does your monitor have Freesync ? Turn that on.
Did you enable Enhanced Sync in drivers ? You should.
Did you cap FPS to 120 ? Necessary to prevent speeding.
MOST IMPORTANT - Disable V-Sync in game.
If all else fails, dry disabling OpenGL/Triple Buffering in drivers.
Iron Knights (Banned) Jun 29, 2023 @ 7:41pm 
Other than that, never use nextrus, they do not support their own bad programming and your game stability & working status depends on THEIR "updates".
Zekiran Jun 29, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by Iron Knights:
Other than that, never use nextrus, they do not support their own bad programming and your game stability & working status depends on THEIR "updates".


I am 1000% sure you have literally never used any nexus mods, because son they update because *the creators are right there*.

Updating.

Whenever they can. And when they cannot or don't want to they usually hand off control or open their mod to use by others who WILL update them or CAN.

Please stop spreading dumbassery like this. You are *patently WRONG* about it. Every. Time.
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Date Posted: Jun 28, 2023 @ 10:46pm
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