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Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:31am
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Alternatives to Vortex
Yo, just bought the Game since its on Discount and wanted to Install some Mods, especially that StoryWealth thingy looks super dope.

Now the Problem is, Vortex is a huge scam in my Opinion by lowering the Download and having to MANUALLY Download all Mods when you're not a Premium Member (aint paying a single Dollar just to download a Mod to a Website thats just there to Provide Mods, other than that they arent doing anything), especially when the Package is around 500 Mods, that would take a whole Day.

Are there any Alternatives to Vortex?
Last edited by Globii; Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:33am
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eMYNOCK Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:34am 
accept the wait or pay premium to have the speed... up to you.

though, vortex and mod manager should be able to simply queue up your downloads and finish them one after another.
Last edited by eMYNOCK; Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:36am
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
accept the wait or pay premium to have the speed... up to you.

despite, vortex and mod manager should be able to simply queue up your downloads and finish them one after another.

I mean, the 3mb/s would be kinda "fine", I could live with that... BUT

If for example I want to Download a "Collection" that has all the Mods already in it, I have to MANUALLY Download every single Mod by Hand by clicking on the Link it gives me in the Vortex Modmanager, this Link then leads me to the Vortex Website and then I have to manually Download the Mod.

Theres no way im doing that for ~500 Mods.....

There has to be another way (besides paying Premium, that aint gonna happen)
Last edited by Globii; Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:39am
Charlemagne Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:40am 
You don't have to download everything manually, just download at a slower speed, mods only weight some mbs
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Omnissiah:
You don't have to download everything manually, just download at a slower speed, mods only weight some mbs

The one im trying to Download is like a complete overhaul of the Game itself and is around 70GB and roughly around 500 Mods. And Vortex wants me to either spend Money for Premium or Download all of those Mods 1 by 1.
Wildcard Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:48am 
two things

Vortex is probably the better choice if you can get used to the UI.
Personally I hate Vortex's UI and use an old version of NMM instead which still works.

Manually downloading is something We All Have To Do. Premium is Not Worth it.
NMM will no longer Connect to the Nexus data base either so updating mods and getting mod info will not work.

The slower download speed is inconsequential unless your downloading 600Mb+ which you just sit and wait for
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Wildcard:
two things

Vortex is probably the better choice if you can get used to the UI.
Personally I hate Vortex's UI and use an old version of NMM instead which still works.

Manually downloading is something We All Have To Do. Premium is Not Worth it.
NMM will no longer Connect to the Nexus data base either so updating mods and getting mod info will not work.

The slower download speed is inconsequential unless your downloading 600Mb+ which you just sit and wait for

Yea, Premium defenitelly not worth it, aint no way im paying Money for this.

But am I getting this right, if for example I want to Download a FULL Collections Pack like this for example ( https://next.nexusmods.com/fallout4/collections/5atq9t ), you're telling me that I have to MANUALLY Download all of those 500+ Mods?

I thought there would be like a "1-Click" or something if they even made a fcking Program for it.
Xenon The Noble Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:24pm 
Collections are the work of the devil. They have a clear and easy use: you can download Mod A that requires Mods B, C and D, and mod B requires Mod E.
Nope. They don't do that. A "curator" throws every single mod in there to have a large collection, and some of the mods he's thrown in don't work, and others aren't compatible with mods you already have. The collection is just so the curator can see his name on the websites. Most are very poor quality
Xenon The Noble Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:28pm 
What is storywealth and why are there so many patches for it?
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
What is storywealth and why are there so many patches for it?

No idea, I just installed some Mods I want, im fine.

One last Question: Is the HD Mod worth it?
Fytch Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by Globii:
Yo, just bought the Game since its on Discount and wanted to Install some Mods, especially that StoryWealth thingy looks super dope.

Now the Problem is, Vortex is a huge scam in my Opinion by lowering the Download and having to MANUALLY Download all Mods when you're not a Premium Member (aint paying a single Dollar just to download a Mod to a Website thats just there to Provide Mods, other than that they arent doing anything), especially when the Package is around 500 Mods, that would take a whole Day.

Are there any Alternatives to Vortex?
clearly this isn't the game for you if you gotta install 500 mods to enjoy it. that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. Also, it's not a scam dude, they gotta make money to keep the site up somehow, been using them for years on a free account and have never had any issues downloading stuff.
Last edited by Fytch; Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:38pm
Fytch Jun 26, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
Collections are the work of the devil. They have a clear and easy use: you can download Mod A that requires Mods B, C and D, and mod B requires Mod E.
Nope. They don't do that. A "curator" throws every single mod in there to have a large collection, and some of the mods he's thrown in don't work, and others aren't compatible with mods you already have. The collection is just so the curator can see his name on the websites. Most are very poor quality
agreed. you should never download a collection, just hand pick them out yourself, much better that way.
Bored Peon Jun 26, 2023 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
Collections are the work of the devil. They have a clear and easy use: you can download Mod A that requires Mods B, C and D, and mod B requires Mod E.
Nope. They don't do that. A "curator" throws every single mod in there to have a large collection, and some of the mods he's thrown in don't work, and others aren't compatible with mods you already have. The collection is just so the curator can see his name on the websites. Most are very poor quality
That pretty much sums it up for 95% of the collections.

The ONLY collections anyone should ever download are ones that come with guides to load order, settings, and such. That means the curator actually has tested and set up those mods and know they work together.

I have premium for Nexus because I bought the lifetime when it was on sale a few years ago.
Last edited by Bored Peon; Jun 26, 2023 @ 1:54pm
hawkeye Jun 26, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
Collections, like youtube mod lists, are good for reviewing to identify mods that might be of personal interest. I'd never blindly down load a collection. You have to check the descriptions, requirements and bug lists anyway.

The best mods seem to be the ones where the authors are proud of their work and bother to write an informative description section. Plus a lot of the really good stuff is to found elsewhere e.g. personal websites, afkmods, discords, blogs etc.
Last edited by hawkeye; Jun 26, 2023 @ 2:02pm
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Al Abaster:
Originally posted by Globii:
Are there any Alternatives to Vortex?

Become a pro, and step up to Wrye Bash[www.nexusmods.com]


Originally posted by Globii:
that would take a whole Day.


You don't need 500 mods. If you want 500 mods, it's going to take a whole lot longer than one day to get them all downloaded, installed, ordered and configured. That's just the nature of modding.

It took me most of a day to get everything solid with the ~60 mods I use in Oblivion. And I've been modding Bethesda games since Morrowind.


Whats Wrye Bash?


Yea, figured that one out aswell ... Chose couple of Mods that look nice and give some nice Gameplay Changes / Benefits and im now installing them Manually... But yeah, fck Vortex ... Takes forever since they thought it would be a nice Idea to cap the DL Rate.

Idiots.
Last edited by Globii; Jun 26, 2023 @ 3:17pm
Globii Jun 26, 2023 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Al Abaster:
Originally posted by Globii:
Whats Wrye Bash?

It's the original mod manager and installer for Bethesda games that use the Creation Engine. It doesn't try to make everything automatic, so it has a learning curve, but it's way more powerful than Vortex.

Nice, thanks. I will defenitelly look into it.
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