You're SPECIAL book: Get special to 12 (legit way)

[guk92i]

Hi guys,

I would like to know if some of you succeeded to get the Agility/Endurance/Luck to 12 the legit way, by legit I mean without console and without duplicating the special book item in the workshop.

According to Fallout's wiki[fallout.fandom.com], it's possible to increase up to 12 by lowering the special with a consumable that has immediate effect, with some research I have found these consumables:

1. Strength: Day Tripper
   
2. Perception: Fury
   
3. Endurance: NO-AVAILABLE-ITEM
   
4. Charisma: Daddy-O
   
5. Intelligence: Dirty Wastelander
   
6. Agility: NO-AVAILABLE-ITEM
   
7. Luck: NO-AVAILABLE-ITEM

I think that Agility is the most interesting special since it adds more action points and 4% sneak per special points (I found somewhere it's 4%). I have also read it's possible with a chem's "withdrawal" but I don't understand what it means since I already have Calmex addiction with 2 penalty points 11 - 2 = 9 in Agility but Agility is still not available in the SPECIAL book

Questions:

1. Is there a legit way to increase Agility to 12? If it's with "withdrawal", what am I suppose to do exactly?
   
2. If there isn't a way to increase Agility, what's the best special between Strength, Perception, Charisma and Intelligence according to you? (nb: Intelligence doesn't seem interesting because of Idiot Savant perk and my level is already really high)

Thanks

[Chaosium]

The "legit" way is still exploiting an unintended behavior of stats, do yourself a favor and add +1 to your agility via commands, the result is the same

As for other stats, that depends of your build, additional perception will be useless for melee, as a meager +1 strength won't do much for gun users. Charisma can be useful to get the speech checks I guess

[Senor Cinco]

What about Pommel horse?

[gregnewman2202]

I don't know if you call this '' legit '' , i have a mod from Nexus ( and no , I can't remember the name of it ) that gives all 64 special's of the bat , then I use '' cheat terminal '' to give me
enough perk points to max out my perk points from the the start . After having over 8000 hours in this , I've set my game up with other mods so it's more challenging fro me .

[Senor Cinco]

I redacted X-Cell from my previous comment. Not sure what I was thinking. I just woke up... need Solcum's Joe.

If I use a max Agility character, 10+ Bobblehead, build a pommel horse at a settlement and wear Military Fatigues.

AP sneak character... adds Lightweight mods to shadowed armor.

[Sophisticated Gumi-chan]

You can also get past 12 if you use legendary items that grant special points.

[steventirey]

I think the point is for a permanent increase. Gear and the pommel horse aren't technically permanent, as you can lose the bonus by changing gear, or using one of the other pieces of equipment.

What he wants is a method to have 10 in the stat, boost it to 11 with the SPECIAL book (it can be done - the book looks at your current score, not your actual score when determining what abilities you can increase), and then 1 more from the bobblehead. A truly permanent score of 12.

[Senor Cinco]

I get what the OP is after. If they want a sustained max Agility, the pommel horse is the only way to get it.

EDIT: @OP
As far as which one to increase with the book, it really depends on what you want to focus your character on.

EDIT2: I could swear that there's another way to get a reduced Agility for the use of the book but I can't recall what it is, ATM.

[globefish23]

Have you tried getting addicted to multiple drugs that each lower agility?
Since you can stack the effects of multiple drugs, maybe also the addiction debuffs get stacked.

[Zes]

in survival, being hungry drops your endurance, and something was dropping lck too, maybe extreme hunger, or thirst. or maybe sleeplessness.

idk if it work with levelling stats.

[ᕮᗪᗯᗩ®ᗪ🍀]

Sorry for the necromancy,
but I just tested agility and endurance to get to 11 for the special.
Survival, fresh install, no mods. Agility doesn't seem to work, sadly. But good news. Endurance works like a charm. Tested at level 5 with one leftover point for perks, famished (end -4) applied the last point, read the book, ate all my food and look, it's 11.

Can't wait for the booble head. Will probably die to a bloatfly again, or random mines.