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wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 1:22am
Fallout 4 no mods, windows 11 issue.
Hello
My new laptop from 2 weeks ago is using windows 11, i installed a fallout 4 and steam synced the save game from my old laptop, save fils are in documents/My Games/Fallout4, looks all good. With out mods at all.

But for some reason the in game option continue does not appear and the load option is grayed out.

I heard that moving save files from win 10 to 11 is problematic sometimes so i said i'll cut my losses and start a new game.

But still even though the game shows saving... still the load option is grayed out, and no progress is saved in a new game including manually saving still load is grayed out.....

So deleted the safe files deleted fallout 4 and reinstalled it this time i run the game with offline mode, the game does creat a new folder for the saves with two .ini files but the same issue still..... game say saving and manually saving does not show errors but there is not load option and the save folder in documents/My Games is empty......

OK i said, i downgraded my new laptop to win 10 and TADAAA, the game works fine saving and loading......
So this is definitely a win 11 issue.
Please help.......
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Wait what I am on Windows 11 on my Custom Build and not a issue for me.
All my parts fully support Windows 11.
I am on newest version of Win 11.
Something is odd with what OP says.
cheshirm Mar 8, 2023 @ 1:32am 
this game runs just fine on win 11. I can load win 7 and win 10 saves on win 11. perhaps learn win 11 increased security features. I took the drive containing my steam games out of my 10 yr old pc and put it in my new win 11 desktop. all 60+ steam games and all games from other vendors work. and all the saves worked.

this game creates a folder
Documents\My Games\Fallout4
folder will contain 3 ini/preference files when the launcher runs
fallout4.ini fallout4custom.ini fallout4prefs.ini
and your saves folder when the game runs

check antivirus log. might be blocking the game launcher and game

check windows security/controlled folder access. if on add exception for game launcher and game

and very common issue, windows one drive moves files out of the documents folder into one drive folder. the game does NOT read one drive folders. tweak one drive to leave the game files where they are
Last edited by cheshirm; Mar 8, 2023 @ 1:53am
thegrimeyone Mar 8, 2023 @ 2:20am 
I mean...Steam's cloud save option exists for a reason.
wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
this game runs just fine on win 11. I can load win 7 and win 10 saves on win 11. perhaps learn win 11 increased security features. I took the drive containing my steam games out of my 10 yr old pc and put it in my new win 11 desktop. all 60+ steam games and all games from other vendors work. and all the saves worked.

this game creates a folder
Documents\My Games\Fallout4
folder will contain 3 ini/preference files when the launcher runs
fallout4.ini fallout4custom.ini fallout4prefs.ini
and your saves folder when the game runs

check antivirus log. might be blocking the game launcher and game

check windows security/controlled folder access. if on add exception for game launcher and game

and very common issue, windows one drive moves files out of the documents folder into one drive folder. the game does NOT read one drive folders. tweak one drive to leave the game files where they are
This is so confusing,
Onedrive is not setup, never have one. Controlled folder access is off, when sarting the game it creates a folder in this PC/Documents/My Games
But not in c:/ Users/*user*/Documents

The game does not report and error when saving so it must be saving some where....
wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Also the game only creats two .ini files falout4.ini , fallout4Prefs.ini and saves folder
cheshirm Mar 8, 2023 @ 10:38am 
on my win 11, brand new One Drive was ON, windows Defender was ON, controlled folder access was ON.

right click on Documents folder in the quick access file explorer window and select properties

on my pc c:\users\mywindowsLogin\Documents and This PC/Documents are the SAME

open file explorer. search c:\users for files ending in *.fos (your fallout4 saves)

you could also search for fallout4* to find out where folders are being created.

should have another in folder c:\users\yourwindowsLoginappdata\local
Last edited by cheshirm; Mar 8, 2023 @ 10:43am
cheshirm Mar 8, 2023 @ 11:02am 
the game writes saves to folder
c:\users\yourwindowsLogin\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Saves

the This PC -> Documents entry in file explorer is the same folder

BUT under the top quick access part, THAT Documents folder may NOT be the same folder. which seems to be what you are seeing. that section of file explorer are folders you visit frequently recently. you can right click on the folder in quick access and remove from quick access if it is confusing
Last edited by cheshirm; Mar 8, 2023 @ 11:06am
cheshirm Mar 8, 2023 @ 11:22am 
create a new local windows account with a simple login like "games" without the quote marks.
logout.
login with the new account
start steam then start game. menus work? saves work?
wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
create a new local windows account with a simple login like "games" without the quote marks.
logout.
login with the new account
start steam then start game. menus work? saves work?
did that, still same issue
This is crap, could this be a hardware issue?
wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
the game writes saves to folder
c:\users\yourwindowsLogin\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\Saves

the This PC -> Documents entry in file explorer is the same folder

BUT under the top quick access part, THAT Documents folder may NOT be the same folder. which seems to be what you are seeing. that section of file explorer are folders you visit frequently recently. you can right click on the folder in quick access and remove from quick access if it is confusing
i did that and it still returned aagain
cheshirm Mar 8, 2023 @ 12:06pm 
so two accounts and the game cannot read the save folder in either even though there are saves in the folder

you have run steam verify game files, correct?

go to the game folder
...\steam\steamapps\common\fallout 4
right click on fallout4launcher.exe and run with admin permission
and see what happens. all menu choices not grayed out?

and more importantly, do you have mods? or did your ever have mods?
Last edited by cheshirm; Mar 8, 2023 @ 12:08pm
R3dAlert93 Mar 8, 2023 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by wasemrshde:
Hello
My new laptop from 2 weeks ago is using windows 11, i installed a fallout 4 and steam synced the save game from my old laptop, save fils are in documents/My Games/Fallout4, looks all good. With out mods at all.

But for some reason the in game option continue does not appear and the load option is grayed out.

I heard that moving save files from win 10 to 11 is problematic sometimes so i said i'll cut my losses and start a new game.

But still even though the game shows saving... still the load option is grayed out, and no progress is saved in a new game including manually saving still load is grayed out.....

So deleted the safe files deleted fallout 4 and reinstalled it this time i run the game with offline mode, the game does creat a new folder for the saves with two .ini files but the same issue still..... game say saving and manually saving does not show errors but there is not load option and the save folder in documents/My Games is empty......

OK i said, i downgraded my new laptop to win 10 and TADAAA, the game works fine saving and loading......
So this is definitely a win 11 issue.
Please help.......

No problem with windows 11. Must be something else.
wasemrshde Mar 8, 2023 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by cheshirm:
so two accounts and the game cannot read the save folder in either even though there are saves in the folder

you have run steam verify game files, correct?

go to the game folder
...\steam\steamapps\common\fallout 4
right click on fallout4launcher.exe and run with admin permission
and see what happens. all menu choices not grayed out?

and more importantly, do you have mods? or did your ever have mods?
I just did that, also a new install too, still did not work
wasemrshde Mar 9, 2023 @ 1:22am 
I am going to try something, i am downloading the game from a....... "another" sorce and install it, i will post the result here, i have doubts it could ne a steam issue
Totes McGoats Mar 9, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Check to see if any of the windows 11 core isolation measures are on, if they are try to turn them off. They cause goofy problems (in my case unable to play with a ps5 controller and unable to connect to servers in a few games) due to some sort of sandboxing that isolates processes. This in particular is a windows 11 issue. Information on core isolation is available to review @ https://www.pcworld.com/article/1069899/windows-11s-performance-stealing-security-feature-is-now-on-by-default.html
Last edited by Totes McGoats; Mar 9, 2023 @ 3:29am
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