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pjedilord Feb 18, 2023 @ 2:55pm
Fallout 4 Why People Agree To Be Put In Cryo?
So they built high tech vaults, so why did people agree to be place in cryo
sleep? Why not live in vault instead of cryo? or would they not be accepted
if did not want to be in cryo?So vault tech only wanted them in cryo to experiment?

to do what with people?forgot did SS know be in cyro for 210 years?
Why did Conrad Kellogg turn of people's life support? or Institute told him to?
How many years was people meant to be in cryo sleep?
Why did Kellogg go to Vault 111 instead of other vaults? that would of been closer
to Institute? Must of been others better than SS?
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Xenon The Noble Feb 18, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
They were told it was for decontamination. Vault tec didn't tell them it was a cryogenic experiment.
Maybe the system was set to thaw them out once the rads died down to safe levels.
Kellogg was sadistic. Pretty sure his orders were to keep Shaun's parents alive.
Other vaults had people with corrupted DNA. Only Vault 111 had pre-war residents. And most vaults were full of dead people too, except Vault 81
goatfish Feb 18, 2023 @ 3:11pm 
your chat bots out of date pj

it forgot to ask if cryo was in other fallout games
Anvos Feb 18, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
This isn't that complicated.

1. The game literally spells out the residents didn't know it was a cryo vault, normal people and Vault Tec's average corporate employee didn't know about the experiments. Even the local Vault Tec office didn't know as there is an email essentially questioning why the vault was receiving so much liquid nitrogen or something of the sort.

2. Kellogg is a psychopath that only cares about completing the mission objectives he was given as quickly as possible. This is literally the exact same reason University Point got wiped out, he only cared about meeting the minimum specs of success for his mission and everybody else was acceptable collateral to him.

3. Vault 111 was really the only option.
A. The genetic super soldier engineering vault had rebelled and left their vault. Likely becoming the gunners.

B. The drug addiction vault had self terminated, since the experiment was one doomed to kill everybody, since they just locked recovering addicts up with a stash of drugs and no option to remove themselves from the temptation and leave the vault.

C. No sane person was going to willingly enter the virus and disease research vault expecting to find viable candidates, not knowing the project had been sabotaged from the start and was essentially a control vault now.

D. The Boston city and and Vault Tech R&D vaults were never completed, so even if anybody did live there, they would be genetically unviable for what the Institute needed.
gregnewman2202 Feb 18, 2023 @ 4:57pm 
I've only played F03 , new Vegas and Fo4 .
In Fo3 , you were born into Vault 111 where over the last 2 centuries ( give or take a decade or so ) the residents have kept the vault running over the centuries . eventually , there's a quest where you ultimately decide to destroy or save the vault . There is another vault where the residents are put in a '' dream state '' , I can't remember much more than that . For one reason or another the rest of the vaults where abandoned .

In New Vegas , all the vaults but 1 abandoned for one reason or another , where in a quest you ( even though you don't get to see the residents ) get to decide if the residents live or die .

In Fallout 4 , Vault-Tec ( this time 'round ) built the Vaults but this the vaults where basically used for various types of human experiments , one had a bunch a drug addicts , another vault from I understand , some sort of genetic research ? , by now I think we what happened in vault 111 .
Zekiran Feb 18, 2023 @ 5:00pm 
They did not get permission. They were never told they were being frozen. They died thinking they were going to be decontaminated and come out to live in the vault - a vault which does not even exist, it's literally only the storage units and power supply.
kireta Feb 19, 2023 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by gregnewman2202:
In Fallout 4 , Vault-Tec ( this time 'round ) built the Vaults but this the vaults where basically used for various types of human experiments , one had a bunch a drug addicts , another vault from I understand , some sort of genetic research ? , by now I think we what happened in vault 111 .
To be specific, according to president Richardson all vaults encountered in Fallout were part of Societal Preservation Program (social engineering experiments).

Vault 3: a control group, meant to stay in isolation
Vault 8: a control group, but meant to open once it's safe (all-clear signal given in 2091).
Vault 11: residents were forced to make human sacrifices
Vault 12: doors were disabled to expose vault residents to radiation.
Vault 13: a control group, meant to stay in isolation
Vault 15: population was intentionally selected for ethnic diversity to force ethnicity blending.
Vault 19: population was divided into 2 camps and fed fake news to create paranoia between the groups
Vault 21: all conflict were to be resolved by gambling
Vault 22: purpose unknown. Population wiped out by failed experiment of its residents.
Vault 34: deliberately overpopulated, with all residents having free access to weapons
Vault 75: attempt to use eugenics and conditioning to create super soldiers.
Vault 81: population was to be hit with epidemics (but kept alive) to see how they affect society.
Vault 87: population to be used as guinea pigs for FEV experiments
Vault 88: unknown, vault unfinished. Variety of minor experiments was passed to to-be overseer
Vault 92: residents made go berserk with use of white noise emmiters. Yeah, it's stupid.
Vault 95: drug-addicts were to be forcefully cleaned, and after time, pushed into relapse
Vault 101: overseer was to be given unlimited power, and population brainwashed into complete obedience
Vault 106: residents made go berserk with use of airborne drugs. Yeah, it's stupid v2.0.
Vault 108: entire population was to be clone of the same guy
Vault 111: population was frozen in pods and abandoned. Possible "yeah it's stupid v3", unless actual test subjects were maintence crews.
Vault 112: population was to be put in VR forever. Definitely "yeah it's stupid" tier.
Vault 114: wealthy residents were to be forced into life of poverty, and overseer was to be possibly unfit for the job.
Vault 118: impoverished population ruled by 10 rich people with unlimited authority. Vault was not inhabited, bar for intended rulers and an overseer.
Last edited by kireta; Feb 19, 2023 @ 7:47am
Chronocide Feb 19, 2023 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
So they built high tech vaults, so why did people agree to be place in cryo
sleep? Why not live in vault instead of cryo? or would they not be accepted
if did not want to be in cryo?So vault tech only wanted them in cryo to experiment?

to do what with people?forgot did SS know be in cyro for 210 years?
Why did Conrad Kellogg turn of people's life support? or Institute told him to?
How many years was people meant to be in cryo sleep?
Why did Kellogg go to Vault 111 instead of other vaults? that would of been closer
to Institute? Must of been others better than SS?
So vault tech is sort of the hidden bad-guy in all the fallout games. Unclear if they are the cause of the nuclear war, or just a group focused on profiting off of it. I recall something where they imply they may have pushed things along.

Basically they used the vaults to run scientific experiments on unknowing test subjects, most of which were such questionable experiments where they needed to "trick people" into signing up: "Vault tech, a better life underground."

In the case of the main character for Fallout 4, they lied to him, said the freezer would decontaminate and that they'd see the rest of the vault in a bit. There was no "rest of the vault."

And judging by the other occupants of vault 111, vault tech didn't really understand cryo and the main character really just got lucky to survive. It was yet another experiment by vault tech.

That heartless ghoul scientist in vault 88, typical vault tech. People are lab rats, just wants to toy with them to see what happens, in the name of furthering science, of course.

I think in fallout 3, one of the vaults is responsible for all of the super mutants, which are not really natural mutants at all, but another vault tech project.
Bored Peon Feb 19, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Chronocide:
So vault tech is sort of the hidden bad-guy in all the fallout games. Unclear if they are the cause of the nuclear war, or just a group focused on profiting off of it. I recall something where they imply they may have pushed things along.
They were part of the Enclave. The vaults were created to having a civilian working class they could rule over without revealing their existence.
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Xenon The Noble Feb 19, 2023 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by Pookie101:
Pretty clear you never bothered to read the terminals in Vault 111
Yeah. Terminals either open a door or tell a boring story.

Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by Chronocide:
So vault tech is sort of the hidden bad-guy in all the fallout games. Unclear if they are the cause of the nuclear war, or just a group focused on profiting off of it. I recall something where they imply they may have pushed things along.
They were part of the Enclave. The vaults were created to having a civilian working class they could rule over without revealing their existence.
Then why did the experiments kill almost everyone in every vault? I guess Vault 75 was about making super soldiers (Gunners).
Why isn't the Gunners better fighters than the BOS if the gunners are genetically superior humans?
I'm not disagreeing, I just have questions.
rtwjunkie Feb 19, 2023 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
Originally posted by Pookie101:
Pretty clear you never bothered to read the terminals in Vault 111
Yeah. Terminals either open a door or tell a boring story.

Originally posted by Bored Peon:
They were part of the Enclave. The vaults were created to having a civilian working class they could rule over without revealing their existence.
Then why did the experiments kill almost everyone in every vault? I guess Vault 75 was about making super soldiers (Gunners).
Why isn't the Gunners better fighters than the BOS if the gunners are genetically superior humans?
I'm not disagreeing, I just have questions.
This is why reading is important in the game. The Vault 75 experiment died out and didn't even make it past the 2nd round of "super-soldiers" before they rebelled, killed the staff and escaped. So the whole experiment ended nearly 200 years prior. At most, you had 30 or so individuals who had better fighting DNA who got out and then one can assume at least half died within a year and the rest, with no one to keep playing with their selective breeding had their traits diluted over the years with each succeeding generation.
Last edited by rtwjunkie; Feb 19, 2023 @ 9:20am
kireta Feb 19, 2023 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
There was a great war long before we were born. Our gallant soldiers fought from the Yukon to the Yangtze. We were winning, too. And then those damn Reds launched everything they had. We barely got our birds up.
Originally posted by The Chosen One:
Doesn't seem as though it helped us much.
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
Well, no it didn't. But at least it knocked the damn Red menace back into the stone age.
Originally posted by The Chosen One:
And us with it.
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
Well, no. No... not quite. You see, we had planned ahead. We were ready.
Originally posted by The Chosen One:
What do you mean?
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
We had a number of sanctuaries that would enable the glorious American civilization to endure. These facilities - the vaults - were part of the great plan.
Originally posted by The Chosen One:
Those damn vaults didn't work the way they were supposed to. A lot of people in them died.
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
Actually, they worked almost exactly the way they were supposed to. You might call it a social experiment on a grand scale.
Originally posted by The Chosen One:
An experiment?
Originally posted by President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson:
The vaults were set up to test humanity. Some had not enough food synthesizers, others had only men in them, yet others were designed to open after only 6 months. They each had a unique set of circumstances designed to test the occupants.

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jerrypocalypse Feb 19, 2023 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
Originally posted by Pookie101:
Pretty clear you never bothered to read the terminals in Vault 111
Yeah. Terminals either open a door or tell a boring story.

Originally posted by Bored Peon:
They were part of the Enclave. The vaults were created to having a civilian working class they could rule over without revealing their existence.
Then why did the experiments kill almost everyone in every vault? I guess Vault 75 was about making super soldiers (Gunners).
Why isn't the Gunners better fighters than the BOS if the gunners are genetically superior humans?
I'm not disagreeing, I just have questions.
I don't have anything specific about the Gunners, but yeah a majority of the vaults were design to conduct experiments on people as part of the Enclave's plan to find ways for people to survive inhospitable conditions (nuclear apocalypse, space, etc). The vault residents weren't really intended as a "working class" themselves, but the experiments were intended to eventually yield a way for others to survive so there was both a population of workers and the population of Enclave government officials and their families.
pjedilord Feb 19, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
They were told it was for decontamination. Vault tec didn't tell them it was a cryogenic experiment.
Maybe the system was set to thaw them out once the rads died down to safe levels.
Kellogg was sadistic. Pretty sure his orders were to keep Shaun's parents alive.
Other vaults had people with corrupted DNA. Only Vault 111 had pre-war residents. And most vaults were full of dead people too, except Vault 81


Originally posted by Zekiran:
They did not get permission. They were never told they were being frozen. They died thinking they were going to be decontaminated and come out to live in the vault - a vault which does not even exist, it's literally only the storage units and power supply.


Originally posted by Pookie101:
Originally posted by gregnewman2202:
I've only played F03 , new Vegas and Fo4 .
In Fo3 , you were born into Vault 111 where over the last 2 centuries ( give or take a decade or so ) the residents have kept the vault running over the centuries . eventually , there's a quest where you ultimately decide to destroy or save the vault . There is another vault where the residents are put in a '' dream state '' , I can't remember much more than that . For one reason or another the rest of the vaults where abandoned .

In New Vegas , all the vaults but 1 abandoned for one reason or another , where in a quest you ( even though you don't get to see the residents ) get to decide if the residents live or die .

In Fallout 4 , Vault-Tec ( this time 'round ) built the Vaults but this the vaults where basically used for various types of human experiments , one had a bunch a drug addicts , another vault from I understand , some sort of genetic research ? , by now I think we what happened in vault 111 .

Fo3. You were actually born outside the vault before your dad took you both to Vault 101


Originally posted by Chronocide:
Originally posted by pjedilord:
So they built high tech vaults, so why did people agree to be place in cryo
sleep? Why not live in vault instead of cryo? or would they not be accepted
if did not want to be in cryo?So vault tech only wanted them in cryo to experiment?

to do what with people?forgot did SS know be in cyro for 210 years?
Why did Conrad Kellogg turn of people's life support? or Institute told him to?
How many years was people meant to be in cryo sleep?
Why did Kellogg go to Vault 111 instead of other vaults? that would of been closer
to Institute? Must of been others better than SS?
So vault tech is sort of the hidden bad-guy in all the fallout games. Unclear if they are the cause of the nuclear war, or just a group focused on profiting off of it. I recall something where they imply they may have pushed things along.

Basically they used the vaults to run scientific experiments on unknowing test subjects, most of which were such questionable experiments where they needed to "trick people" into signing up: "Vault tech, a better life underground."

In the case of the main character for Fallout 4, they lied to him, said the freezer would decontaminate and that they'd see the rest of the vault in a bit. There was no "rest of the vault."

And judging by the other occupants of vault 111, vault tech didn't really understand cryo and the main character really just got lucky to survive. It was yet another experiment by vault tech.

That heartless ghoul scientist in vault 88, typical vault tech. People are lab rats, just wants to toy with them to see what happens, in the name of furthering science, of course.

I think in fallout 3, one of the vaults is responsible for all of the super mutants, which are not really natural mutants at all, but another vault tech project.




Seems stupid for people to willing to enter the cyro as we and them can tell it can
be locked, so represents potential danger to be locked inside?
So decontaminate from what? SS etc know they don't need to as nothing happened.
They did not have common sense? so they was not clever?
Bored Peon Feb 19, 2023 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
So decontaminate from what?
:steamfacepalm:just :steamfacepalm:
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