Is Curie a baddie?

[Xenon The Noble]

She was keeping the molerats, and one of her molerats got out.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2921627007

Clyde then let the others out.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2921629245

Curie was good with the experiments on the Vault 81 people.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2921626991

Bad enough that her pet molerat got out and, like Willard the Rat, they wiped out all the humans, but Curie is Vault tech, she was good on doing potentially deadly experiments on Humans without their knowledge or consent.

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

This is a good question. I can't answer really myself since I don't know much about her. Curie at face value seems like a saint. Though I did not consider this.

[Xenon The Noble]

"in the hope they develop new antibodies".... and if they don't, I guess they die. She was programmed to be good with this.

To her credit, she wouldn't open the door and give SS the cure until all the Mole rats were dead... So, she wanted them exterminated. On the other hand, she wouldn't give the cure to SS while the mole rats could still infect people.

[Big Moustache]

She follows the hippocratic oath. And give me free steempacks. She is definition of good

[Ellorien]

She is a robot. Robots don’t have ethics or morality outside of their program. Their “personality” is also programmed, as was clearly stated. The program can be altered to suit the owner’s needs.
Therefore robots, regardless of how the container housing their AI looks (a steel box or a synthetic humanoid body) and regardless of their ability to “learn” and adapt can never be considered good or evil. No machine can.

Curie, a modified Miss Nanny, was programmed to run experiments. So she ran the experiments, without evaluating the moral aspects of her job.
And she treated her darling rats the same way as any Miss Nanny would treat newborns. Her attitude was programmed by General Atomics.

The bot functioned as intended, that’s all there is.

[TheSuit]

Curie was following orders -
There was some famous latin phrase - Respondeat Superior

[Zekiran]

More than this she's a scientist trained up by scientists.

In that any given science project in that universe can and will go horribly wrong, she might have been able to figure out that the people around (which she may or may not have actually known anything about) would eventually get hurt by this. But she did was she was supposed to do. That's neither good nor evil. The fact that she only had "one" amount of this serum is still the only thing that bothers the crap out of me - she's had 200 years. there are more than enough chems anywhere to go around.

[wtiger27]

She is hot, has compassion for others and treats my char like she really is in love with him. Enough to convince me she is basically a good machine.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

The fact that she only had "one" amount of this serum is still the only thing that bothers the crap out of me - she's had 200 years. there are more than enough chems anywhere to go around.

Curie says that "Sadly, the organic compounds necessary to make more have all deteriorated.", so she may need more than jsut regular chems to prepare it.

But she should still know how to make it and put you on the track to producing more. If the pre-war society made those compounds in the first place, it should be possible to make some more.

[Big Moustache]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by Zekiran:

The fact that she only had "one" amount of this serum is still the only thing that bothers the crap out of me - she's had 200 years. there are more than enough chems anywhere to go around.

Curie says that "Sadly, the organic compounds necessary to make more have all deteriorated.", so she may need more than jsut regular chems to prepare it.

But she should still know how to make it and put you on the track to producing more. If the pre-war society made those compounds in the first place, it should be possible to make some more.

If anything important or difficult must be made or done, they use old prewar junk to do it. Be it powerplants, medical stuff or anything else. Everything they build themselves is piles of scrap with duct tape around it. If the wasteland was not littered with 200 year old steaks and cola all USA would have been wiped out by famine now.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Fragoos:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Curie says that "Sadly, the organic compounds necessary to make more have all deteriorated.", so she may need more than jsut regular chems to prepare it.

But she should still know how to make it and put you on the track to producing more. If the pre-war society made those compounds in the first place, it should be possible to make some more.

If anything important or difficult must be made or done, they use old prewar junk to do it. Be it powerplants, medical stuff or anything else. Everything they build themselves is piles of scrap with duct tape around it. If the wasteland was not littered with 200 year old steaks and cola all USA would have been wiped out by famine now.

The U.S.A. (or its Fallout equivalent) was already wiped out, there are just some leftover people from the states that once formed it, but they do manage to achieve some fairly advanced things from raw material.

At the very least, a group like the Institute should be able to make the necessary organic compounds for Curie to use.

[Xenon The Noble]

How do you feel about this?

The Three Laws, quoted from the "Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D.", are:[
First Law
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Second Law
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
Third Law
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

So, this was in effect in 2058, so she should have been programmed with them in 2077.

Also, where did Vault Tec get the Mole Rats? I thought they were a result of the nuclear war, but the vault was all stocked and ready to go when the war started. Were radioactive mole-rats already in existence before the war?

[Xenon The Noble]

Originally posted by Yggranya:

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Also, where did Vault Tec get the Mole Rats? I thought they were a result of the nuclear war, but the vault was all stocked and ready to go when the war started. Were radioactive mole-rats already in existence before the war?

There's a master locked computer with some information about this in vault 81, but like most things it's not much. Supposedly they were smaller and not glowing until the scientist started screwing with them. Before that they were probably made by the usual suspect, the military.

Did Vault Tec create the mole rats? Did they escape Vault 81 and infest the entire commonwealth? Did Vault Tec use the FEV to create molerats?

If Clyde was more intelligent than the average Molerat, is that evidence that Vault tec was somewhat successful in using the FEV to make a rad resistant, intelligent Molerat that would be successful in surviving in the radioactive wasteland? Consider that these mole rats can reproduce, while supermutants cannot.

[Xenon The Noble]

Vault 81 was under ground, and well shielded from the radiation of the 2077 war. How come the Vault 81 mole rats are mutated? how did they even get to the commonwealth, since naked mole rats come from East Africa? haired mole rats are found in North Africa and Eurasia.

[MOSQUITO BURGERS]

with that sexy voice she sure is

[Stardustfire]

@Xenon Assimov dont existed in the Timeline of FallOut.