HOW THE F DO I GET ALL FACTIONS TO BE AT PEACE ?

[MonkeyD Jimmy]

Please tell me there is a way for me to make them understand each other , it feels pointless fighting each other when we could do so much more good IF we ALL fckin worked together.So is that an option or not ?

[steventirey]

No matter what you do, at least 1 faction will be destroyed. If you finish the game with the Minutemen, you can keep the Railroad and Brotherhood alive but the Institute will be destroyed. That is the ending with the most factions surviving.

[Zekiran]

There's a mod. It actually does work but it is a touch clunky.

Vanilla? No there is no way to do so aside from "not finishing the game".

[tahunua]

it is not. the factions were written in a way that the railroad, BoS, and institute are all led by short sighted, uncompromising simpletons.

the institute has father that will not accept you working with the railroad, BoS, or Minutemen (though to be fair, they are all interfering with institute operations, so that's somewhat forgivable)

Desdemona will refuse to worth with the BoS, and to be fair Maxson inexplicably wants the railroad destroyed so working in a peaceful solution between these two is pretty tough. but the thing that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever is that des is completely against working with the minutemen. even though she fully acknowledges that you, as the general of the minutemen have full control over them, she still thinks they will somehow turn on the RR that shoe-horned in plot choice is asinine and makes no sense at all.

the BoS, though their mission statement pretty clearly defines a need to destroy the institute's synth lab, as well as most of their other projects, but destroying the entire institute isn't necessarily necessary and the synths themselves aren't the ultimate goal so Maxson's misguided hatred for them also means his desire to destroy the railroad instead of allying with them will shatter any chance of peace.

the closest you can get to a peaceful resolution is as follows:

1. join all factions.
2. cut ties with the institute after the battle for bunker hill, before mass fusion.
3. desdemona will eventually pull you aside and ask you to choose between them or the minutemen, you can say you choose the minutemen as many times as you want and she'll leave the door open for you to change your mind but if you make the mistake of saying you're with the railroad the minutemen story just halts.
4. follow the brotherhood all the way up to blind betrayal, save danse, and then side with the minutemen from there forward.
5. destroy the institute with the minutemen, if you choose to issue an evacuation order for the civilians and tell sturges to let anyone past that asks for it, then Desdemona will later say she disagrees with your decision to side with the minutemen but won't take action against them, and invites you to continue being a mindless peon for the railroad.
6. Preston will ask what to do about the BoS, you can choose to leave them to their own devices and not antagonize them, or to destroy the prydwen, naturally the peaceful choice has them continuing to sacrifice an endless supply of vertibirds in exchange for whateve they can pilfer from the commonwealth.

so while the BoS, Railroad, and minutemen all still hate eachother, they will stick to themselves. they won't help eachother, but they won't go out of their way to help eachother either. that's about the best you can get.

far harbor has a much better set of endings that actually makes some degree of sense given the motivations and beliefs of each faction there. in the main game, there's a lot to be desired.

[Iron Knights]

You're not supposed to, it's not the purpose or the goal of this game.

[Heimdall313]

Just kill them. All of them. Can't have conflict if everyone's dead, now can you?

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by tahunua:

it is not. the factions were written in a way that the railroad, BoS, and institute are all led by short sighted, uncompromising simpletons.

the institute has father that will not accept you working with the railroad, BoS, or Minutemen (though to be fair, they are all interfering with institute operations, so that's somewhat forgivable)

Desdemona will refuse to worth with the BoS, and to be fair Maxson inexplicably wants the railroad destroyed so working in a peaceful solution between these two is pretty tough. but the thing that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever is that des is completely against working with the minutemen. even though she fully acknowledges that you, as the general of the minutemen have full control over them, she still thinks they will somehow turn on the RR that shoe-horned in plot choice is asinine and makes no sense at all.

the BoS, though their mission statement pretty clearly defines a need to destroy the institute's synth lab, as well as most of their other projects, but destroying the entire institute isn't necessarily necessary and the synths themselves aren't the ultimate goal so Maxson's misguided hatred for them also means his desire to destroy the railroad instead of allying with them will shatter any chance of peace.

the closest you can get to a peaceful resolution is as follows:

1. join all factions.
2. cut ties with the institute after the battle for bunker hill, before mass fusion.
3. desdemona will eventually pull you aside and ask you to choose between them or the minutemen, you can say you choose the minutemen as many times as you want and she'll leave the door open for you to change your mind but if you make the mistake of saying you're with the railroad the minutemen story just halts.
4. follow the brotherhood all the way up to blind betrayal, save danse, and then side with the minutemen from there forward.
5. destroy the institute with the minutemen, if you choose to issue an evacuation order for the civilians and tell sturges to let anyone past that asks for it, then Desdemona will later say she disagrees with your decision to side with the minutemen but won't take action against them, and invites you to continue being a mindless peon for the railroad.
6. Preston will ask what to do about the BoS, you can choose to leave them to their own devices and not antagonize them, or to destroy the prydwen, naturally the peaceful choice has them continuing to sacrifice an endless supply of vertibirds in exchange for whateve they can pilfer from the commonwealth.

so while the BoS, Railroad, and minutemen all still hate eachother, they will stick to themselves. they won't help eachother, but they won't go out of their way to help eachother either. that's about the best you can get.

far harbor has a much better set of endings that actually makes some degree of sense given the motivations and beliefs of each faction there. in the main game, there's a lot to be desired.

Destroying the entire institute is necessary for the bos considering maxson makes the statement that the BOS do not plan on sticking around for much longer in the commonwealth once their mission is complete. They came there to eliminate a threat to humanity, They aren't going to leave the institute intact for survivor scientists or anyone else to go down there and possibly reboot the synth program. There's also the FEV lab and weapons program down there that the BOS would also not want falling into the wrong hands.
Plus if you're going the bos round, The Soul survivor uses a Bos holotape to hack the institute's systems and download their files, so the bos ends up with the institute's schematics and research anyways.
There is no real reason to keep the institute around once it's assaulted. It has a serious energy issue with a reactor that's overstressed, It was designed with the idea of only having a few groups of people, it's cramped, And without the institute scientists there is nobody around to maintain it. Not only that, but once it's discovered the institute is just a vulnerable cuccoon 20 feet below ground. It's not a good position.


Best case scenario for the commonwealth is the institute/railroad being wiped out by the bos, who train the minutemen to protect the commonwealth so the bos can head home to the capital wasteland.

[Zekiran]

When you fix the reactor all those things you mention (space, overworked power supply, etc) are also fixed because that means they can continue to expand...

But in the end the game vanilla-wise cannot support all four factions working together because Reasons.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

When you fix the reactor all those things you mention (space, overworked power supply, etc) are also fixed because that means they can continue to expand...

But in the end the game vanilla-wise cannot support all four factions working together because Reasons.

If any faction takes over the institute, the reactor problem would never be fixed which is my point. The institute themselves end up fixing the reactor without the special part, But even so there is no synths or institute engineers left to continue adding on to the institute.
You wouldn't want to either, The institute's main defense is that nobody knows where it is. Now that everyone does, It's an extremely vulnerable hole in the ground.

[Zekiran]

If anyone else has teleport technology that's news to me, it would still be too difficult to reach. Also if they HAVE the technology and you want people to be at peace with each other, given that the protag is now "in charge there" ... in theory (and in the mod I use) you basically just say straight up - we aren't going to harm you. BoS, sure, okay you can come and check up on our facilities but you step out of line and we're back at war. Railroad, just keep quiet, it's not a big deal. Minutemen, you're with me. Let's do this thing.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

If anyone else has teleport technology that's news to me, it would still be too difficult to reach. Also if they HAVE the technology and you want people to be at peace with each other, given that the protag is now "in charge there" ... in theory (and in the mod I use) you basically just say straight up - we aren't going to harm you. BoS, sure, okay you can come and check up on our facilities but you step out of line and we're back at war. Railroad, just keep quiet, it's not a big deal. Minutemen, you're with me. Let's do this thing.

Others don't need teleport tech when they know where the institute is now. Not to mention Prime blows a giant hole down to it in the bos ending

[The Inept European]

Using the teleport tech just to hide in a hole in the ground is an excellent example of how feeble the Institute are in exploiting the advanced tech they have. A smarter faction would use all their tech much more effectively and be much more dangerous.

The Institute needs to be nuked by the BoS more so than any faction. In fact Maxson (uniquely) should forbid evacuation. Not so much for individual G3s - we see that the BoS is rightly not too concerned with those - but to prevent scientists or others escaping with knowledge or data, schematics etc.

[MonkeyD Jimmy]

Originally posted by Heimdall313:

Just kill them. All of them. Can't have conflict if everyone's dead, now can you?

I did and couldn't continue the story xd
I had enough of all of them and their sht so i killed them . But then i loaded an previous save from where everyone is still alive to come in this discussion and see if i can help them all

[The Inept European]

Well, you can't. It would be nice. But no.

[MonkeyD Jimmy]

well screw it , i thought i could help them all and felt bad for going up against his son , killing him . Their goals could be noble at some point but its not what i see now ..... i might as well go with the brotherhood. Screw the rail road . But because i think i might get an achievement for going with either with the institute or the BOS i will make a save where i end the game with both these sides and once i get the achievments i will load my BOS save cause i can't have too many saves

Thank you all for your help and taking the time to reply to my question have a damn good day everyone !

[tahunua]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Destroying the entire institute is necessary for the bos considering maxson makes the statement that the BOS do not plan on sticking around for much longer in the commonwealth once their mission is complete. They came there to eliminate a threat to humanity, They aren't going to leave the institute intact for survivor scientists or anyone else to go down there and possibly reboot the synth program. There's also the FEV lab and weapons program down there that the BOS would also not want falling into the wrong hands.
Plus if you're going the bos round, The Soul survivor uses a Bos holotape to hack the institute's systems and download their files, so the bos ends up with the institute's schematics and research anyways.
There is no real reason to keep the institute around once it's assaulted. It has a serious energy issue with a reactor that's overstressed, It was designed with the idea of only having a few groups of people, it's cramped, And without the institute scientists there is nobody around to maintain it. Not only that, but once it's discovered the institute is just a vulnerable cuccoon 20 feet below ground. It's not a good position.


Best case scenario for the commonwealth is the institute/railroad being wiped out by the bos, who train the minutemen to protect the commonwealth so the bos can head home to the capital wasteland.

as I said, MOST of their projects need to be shut down, but there are many projects they are working on that would be beneficial to the commonwealth which would pose no existential threat, the vast majority of biosciences is devoted to agriculture and destroying that would do more harm than good. the power grid they've established by tapping in to plutonium wells could easily be extended and adapted to the surface similar to how helios 1 and hoover dam provide power to the mohave. also the institute as an underground facility would be extremely defensible and make an excellent capital facility for a new commonwealth government.

Since the BOS has no intention of leaving behind a contingent once they've stripped the commonwealth bare, destroying the institute in its entirety is just a scorched earth campaign. despite the fact that the BoS doesn't want it, and would pose no immediate threat, they still don't want anyone else to enjoy that level of safety.