Is it normal for a Legendary enemy to drop nothing?

[Loot]

Is one of my mods messing up the drop table, or do they just have a low chance to drop nothing?

[asarokk]

There have been many discussions about that in the past. Some say that Legendary enemies are always supposed to drop legendary loot and that it's a bug when it doesn't happen, while others say legendary drop isn't 100% occurrence, that it's rare but happens occasionally. Others have claimed that nearby npcs may loot it. Personally I have no idea but it has happens to everyone at some point.

[The Inept European]

The legendary algorithm will not drop recently dropped effects and maintains a list of 'recents' that are blocked. It also forbids certain combinations.

It may be that "no drop" is what happens when a blocked or forbidden combination is 'rolled'.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by asarokk:

Others have claimed that nearby npcs may loot it.

At the very least, that should be true for weapons. All NPCs are programmed to seek out better weapons than what they currently have equipped. Provided they can actually equip the weapon, of course.

[The Inept European]

Yes.. for some quite odd definition of "better". And they don't try that hard, and only try at all during actual combat.

[asarokk]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Originally posted by asarokk:

Others have claimed that nearby npcs may loot it.

At the very least, that should be true for weapons. All NPCs are programmed to seek out better weapons than what they currently have equipped. Provided they can actually equip the weapon, of course.

Yes, if there is a threat npcs are programmed to seek out weapons, we all know that. Perhaps I should have mentioned that despite npcs being nearby, they may not necessarily have looted the legendary drop, if their empty bodies are indicator of that.

[The Inept European]

That's a pretty good forensic method. :D

[asarokk]

Why thank you, thought so too XD

[The Inept European]

yw

I've never tested if a Siren makes NPCs upgrade their weapons. That might be worth testing.

And, oh, for a mod that made NPCs upgrade their armour, and pick up grenades, and stimpacks.

[The Inept European]

Very annoying indeed.

I have had that "woah wait why is this guy killing me?" experience and then realised it was an explosive or two shot auto assault rifle or similar.

[Loot]

It was a ghoul pack and Piper didn't pick it up. No idea where the item went. o.o

[Sherlock's ☁(Ѽ)\V/(Ѽ)☁]

This seems to happen if you kill them too fast.

Typically when the legendary enemy transforms you will get an item - most if not all the occurrences I have noticed Legendary enemies not dropping anything was by killing them without them changing into their upgraded "comeback" version. Their transformation doesn't trigger and apparently that impacts the loot.

P.s.: It just happened to me yet again at the "National Guard training yard" killing the ghoul (there are typically 2) that spawn outside right after coming out from the terminal.

It is always a frustrating experience seeing that a legendary item can change the way you play a whole run!

[Païtiti]

Originally posted by Sherlock's ☁(Ѽ)\V/(Ѽ)☁:

Their transformation doesn't trigger and apparently that impacts the loot.

That is nonsense. The loottable of mobs is connected to their id not an effect which the "mutated" thingy is.

Either it's a bug or another mod, most likely weapon mods, tinker with the lootlists. That happens, not frequently but sometimes. Example: I shoot the guy that is always standing alone in from of CIT and he drops no legendary but a Steyr Aug which is a modded weapon which drops lvl 30+. Therefore the Aug overwrote the leg. item that was suppose to drop.

[Cor.]

Check your companion.

Curie and Cait will loot bodies in a heartbeat.

[Sherlock's ☁(Ѽ)\V/(Ѽ)☁]

Originally posted by Païtiti:

Originally posted by Sherlock's ☁(Ѽ)\V/(Ѽ)☁:

Their transformation doesn't trigger and apparently that impacts the loot.

That is nonsense. The loottable of mobs is connected to their id not an effect which the "mutated" thingy is.

Either it's a bug or another mod, most likely weapon mods, tinker with the lootlists. That happens, not frequently but sometimes. Example: I shoot the guy that is always standing alone in from of CIT and he drops no legendary but a Steyr Aug which is a modded weapon which drops lvl 30+. Therefore the Aug overwrote the leg. item that was suppose to drop.

Maybe that is non-sense but that is my experience with over 2000 hours playing vanilla on PS4 and PC...

[Loot]

Guys this post is over a year old. I don't even remember making it. Lol