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pjedilord Jan 10, 2023 @ 3:07pm
Fallout 4 Why Bos Dont Use Fatman?
I think Bos could do with having better weapons?i assume they use the same
weapons from the prequels?so why don't they use Fatman for power armor Bos?
Do people use Fatman much? Why is it called Fatman?was Fatman in prequels?
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DouglasGrave Jan 10, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
When talking about Fort Strong, Maxson claims at one point that:
Originally posted by Arthur Maxson:
"The Fat Man Launcher is an essential part of the Brotherhood arsenal. It's a miniature nuclear payload in a man-portable format."
Which suggests that the Brotherhood already uses fat man launchers from a narrative standpoint, we just don't ever get to see it happen in person.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/BoSElderMaxson.txt
Kvinden Jan 10, 2023 @ 5:04pm 
The fatman is used by the BOS in Fallout 3 in the galaxy news mission.

Stop calling the previous games "prequels". They are different games. Or speak of Fallout 4 as a spinoff.
DouglasGrave Jan 10, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by Kvinden:
Stop calling the previous games "prequels". They are different games. Or speak of Fallout 4 as a spinoff.
I wouldn't call Fallout 4 a spinoff, since it's considered part of the main series instead of starting its own series.

But I agree that "prequel" is inaccurate as a description of the earlier games. That's a term usually reserved for something set at an earlier time in narrative terms, but made later in reality. For example, Fallout 76 could count as a prequel. Though the Fallout series is a little disjointed anyway, with maybe only Fallout 1 and 2 being in any really clear sequence where one story leads directly to the next.

You could arguably call Fallout 4 itself a prequel due to it starting with a pre-war secation, but no meaningful gameplay happens there, and in practical terms it's little more than a glorified intro sequence
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
When talking about Fort Strong, Maxson claims at one point that:
Originally posted by Arthur Maxson:
"The Fat Man Launcher is an essential part of the Brotherhood arsenal. It's a miniature nuclear payload in a man-portable format."
Which suggests that the Brotherhood already uses fat man launchers from a narrative standpoint, we just don't ever get to see it happen in person.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/BoSElderMaxson.txt
ironic. There are literally like 1000 different instances where using one would be easier than having you go in to help especially radiant quests
Originally posted by Fumo Gaming:
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
When talking about Fort Strong, Maxson claims at one point that:
Which suggests that the Brotherhood already uses fat man launchers from a narrative standpoint, we just don't ever get to see it happen in person.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/BoSElderMaxson.txt
ironic. There are literally like 1000 different instances where using one would be easier than having you go in to help especially radiant quests

You can use a fat man launcher yourself, there's always one in the fort you find Kellogg in along with at least one mini nuke. And in Fort Strong there are several mini nukes you can pick up yourself.

But if you mean with the AI using it, the devs probably realised the AI are too dumb and giving them a mini nuke would be a bad idea. They would just constantly be blowing you and themselves up, it wouldn't make things easier at all. If you don't believe me, try giving one of your settlers or your companion a fat man.
globefish23 Jan 11, 2023 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Why is it called Fatman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man
pjedilord Jan 11, 2023 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
When talking about Fort Strong, Maxson claims at one point that:
Originally posted by Arthur Maxson:
"The Fat Man Launcher is an essential part of the Brotherhood arsenal. It's a miniature nuclear payload in a man-portable format."
Which suggests that the Brotherhood already uses fat man launchers from a narrative standpoint, we just don't ever get to see it happen in person.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/BoSElderMaxson.txt


Why dont we see it happen?
Why dont npc use Fatman? But they throw nuke bombs instead.
cswiger Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by peppermint hollows:
But if you mean with the AI using it, the devs probably realised the AI are too dumb and giving them a mini nuke would be a bad idea. They would just constantly be blowing you and themselves up, it wouldn't make things easier at all.
Aren't you describing the Super Mutant Suiciders perfectly...?
Anvos Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:41pm 
For the same reason giving grenades to settlers and companions is a bad idea, why we don't see the BoS use the Fatman.

Let alone like missiles, mininukes would be a resources that is hard to replace, so you'd only pull it out for special scenarios, even from a lore standpoint.
Last edited by Anvos; Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:42pm
Myr Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:52pm 
Considering they want to gather technology it makes sense to limit using such destructive weapons for ground units as they are going to blow up whatever they hope to find.

As for the AI being dumb with Fatman, what we need is that mod for Fallout 3 that gives everyone a Fatman... but that's thinking too small, not Fatman, make it the Experimental MIRV. But that's still too small. Add that mod that increases the Experimental MIRV from 8 mininukes to like 100, give that to everyone... yeah, now Boston is going straight to hell and our computers will take us with them.
globefish23 Jan 12, 2023 @ 2:46am 
Several NPCs actually do use Fat Man launchers against the Sole Survivor.
The Gunners at Outpost Zimonja and on the roof of Gunner's Plaza, as well as the raider in Libertalia come to my mind.

It seems that the devs selectively placed Fat Man wielding NPCs in open and/or high locations.
Probably so that the AI can easily hit you with the arced trajectory without blowing themselves up.
DouglasGrave Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by globefish23:
Several NPCs actually do use Fat Man launchers against the Sole Survivor.
The Gunners at Outpost Zimonja and on the roof of Gunner's Plaza, as well as the raider in Libertalia come to my mind.

It seems that the devs selectively placed Fat Man wielding NPCs in open and/or high locations.
Probably so that the AI can easily hit you with the arced trajectory without blowing themselves up.
And to be fair, the developers are placing them where the people would generally place themselves to make best us of their weaponry if they were real people.
Bored Peon Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by globefish23:
Several NPCs actually do use Fat Man launchers against the Sole Survivor.
Couple Trappers in Far Harbor.
pjedilord Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
Originally posted by globefish23:
Several NPCs actually do use Fat Man launchers against the Sole Survivor.
The Gunners at Outpost Zimonja and on the roof of Gunner's Plaza, as well as the raider in Libertalia come to my mind.

It seems that the devs selectively placed Fat Man wielding NPCs in open and/or high locations.
Probably so that the AI can easily hit you with the arced trajectory without blowing themselves up.
And to be fair, the developers are placing them where the people would generally place themselves to make best us of their weaponry if they were real people.

So best offence vats or?
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