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Rothus83 Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:18am
Power Armor S.P.E.C.I.A.L. Mods?
Do the power armor mods that effect your special is that a permanent or temporary stat increase? Does that buff show up when you picking picking perks or not? I am bout to start a new game haven't played in 5 yrs.
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Inardesco Dec 28, 2022 @ 2:03am 
Stuff on armor that increases your stats/perks only apply when using said armor.
Hex Dec 28, 2022 @ 2:38am 
You can't equip something that boosts stats and then pick a perk higher than your unboosted stat.
Myr Dec 28, 2022 @ 5:32am 
Neither wearing items or taking chems that increase SPECIAL will let you take higher perks, however if you temporarily lose SPECIAL from withdrawl or Survival penalties then you can use the "your special" book to increase a stat above 10 (only recommended if you REALLY want that extra boost of power to favourite stat as it wont help with perks).

I think the only item in the series that breaks this convention is the lucky 8 ball from Fallout 3 where having it in your inventory lets you take perks above your base luck.

Remember that if you are ever low on a SPECIAL stat for a perk you want you can always spend perks to increase a stat by 1 point, in general taking actual perks is better than boosting SPECIAL but if you do want a perk badly then its worth a few perks to reach it.
Last edited by Myr; Dec 28, 2022 @ 5:36am
Rothus83 Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:10am 
Ok kool, i was thinking if starting SPECIAL with S 6, P 4, E 4,C 2, I 8, A 2, & L 2. I wanna use mainly energy weapons & power armor. was hoping to compensate some for lower agility.
Hex Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:32am 
You know you can use level ups to get special points?
Zes Dec 28, 2022 @ 12:09pm 
Power armor buffs your STR to 11 while you are in it. And some PA modifications can give you INT (helmet) PER AGI CHR buffs too.

Those are all temporary stat increasesd, aka buffs.. they wear off when you are not in power armor. Therefore they can not help you while picking perks.
Myr Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:26pm 
I have some changes I'd make to the SPECIAL points you mentioned. Others might disagree with my changes though.

Strength could be 2 for Armourer unless going big guns with laser miniguns or 10 if you want to mess around with Pain Train. Since power armour boosts your strength to 11 regardless it means the usual +50 carry weight boost you get from having 6 strength is wasted which makes strong back less useful as a result compared to people not using power armour.

Intelligence should be 9, you want to have the longer lasting fusion cores if you plan on using power armour full time and the grenade is fun too.

Endurance can probably be reduced if you want more points elsewhere, but at the same time it is likely a good place to dump left over points at the end. As you will take less damage in power armour but you also won't be avoiding getting hit so extra HP might still be useful in the end.
Rothus83 Dec 28, 2022 @ 9:45pm 
Originally posted by Ragnarokia:
I have some changes I'd make to the SPECIAL points you mentioned. Others might disagree with my changes though.

Strength could be 2 for Armourer unless going big guns with laser miniguns or 10 if you want to mess around with Pain Train. Since power armour boosts your strength to 11 regardless it means the usual +50 carry weight boost you get from having 6 strength is wasted which makes strong back less useful as a result compared to people not using power armour.

Intelligence should be 9, you want to have the longer lasting fusion cores if you plan on using power armour full time and the grenade is fun too.

Endurance can probably be reduced if you want more points elsewhere, but at the same time it is likely a good place to dump left over points at the end. As you will take less damage in power armour but you also won't be avoiding getting hit so extra HP might still be useful in the end.
I plan on using Power armor alot when i get afew power cores on me till then its still at home. I want 6 str so i can carry alot of stuff i dont want to go back often. If i did lower Endurance i would move then points into Charisma.
Rothus83 Dec 28, 2022 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Hex:
You know you can use level ups to get special points?
Yea i know but i wanna focus on perks mainly 1st, & then add to special between lvls when i can't pick perks.
buggins Dec 31, 2022 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Rothus83:
Do the power armor mods that effect your special is that a permanent or temporary stat increase? Does that buff show up when you picking picking perks or not? I am bout to start a new game haven't played in 5 yrs.
if you have a +2 strength raider power arm (example) and you have 5 strength you cant get the strength 6 and 7 perks you do have increased strength with melee damage but you cant get the perks
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Date Posted: Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:18am
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