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The Filth Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:34pm
Why doesn't any Youtuber take the Medic Perk?
I've only taken the first two tiers and its incredibly useful yet whenever I see a yotuber play the game their Stimpacks barely heal them at all. I mean yeah you get a lot of stimpacks so its understandable to want to choose different perks but thats more of a case against the Chemist perk, no?
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K Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:36pm 
For the current game it's absolutely due to how common stim packs & rad away are, it makes the perk basically pointless until the last rank that actually increases the speed of healing or rad removal.

It's a lot less pointless for the new survival though, which is a good thing.
Last edited by K; Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:38pm
ghpstage Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:42pm 
Perhaps It is less pointless for the new survival, but as stims cause thirst a lot of people seem to be relying more on food and water than stims, if you stim you'll have to drink them after anyway.
At higher levels where the fixed heals from food and water won't fill much of your hp the percentage heal from stims might be more attractive.
Refreshing drinks steal the spotlight though, a huge heal, removal of rads, removal of addictions and the healing is rather rapid. Plus they aren't particularly hard to craft.
Last edited by ghpstage; Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:44pm
omegazeda Apr 9, 2016 @ 7:54pm 
Or perhaps it's for the crafting.
I put one point into that perk on my first play throught before I found out it was how I got the clinc shop. Plus the bonus was nice at a little higher level.
Kameraden Apr 9, 2016 @ 8:27pm 
A lot of Perks are useless. Heck just about everything Endurance based was completely useless on Fallout 4. Luck is semi useless as you can make weapons insanely powerful that you don't really need critical hits, and being criticals do not happen outside of VATs outside of Sneak Attacks, investing in Luck is mute, unless you plan to VATs spam enemies. If you plan on VATs spamming you're better off investing in Agility to get a nice AP boost instead with the added bonus of longer sprinting periods and longer time in the air with a jet pack.

I've also found most of the STR perks useless unless you really really want to be a melee or heavy gun user. Being automatic weapons are just not as good as semi automatic, getting the recoil reducing perks for hip firing under STR are also semi useless as you really don't need them.

Over all the game isn't balanced, it's relatively broken actually. hehe
Originally posted by Kameraden:
A lot of Perks are useless. Heck just about everything Endurance based was completely useless on Fallout 4. Luck is semi useless as you can make weapons insanely powerful that you don't really need critical hits, and being criticals do not happen outside of VATs outside of Sneak Attacks, investing in Luck is mute, unless you plan to VATs spam enemies. If you plan on VATs spamming you're better off investing in Agility to get a nice AP boost instead with the added bonus of longer sprinting periods and longer time in the air with a jet pack.

I've also found most of the STR perks useless unless you really really want to be a melee or heavy gun user. Being automatic weapons are just not as good as semi automatic, getting the recoil reducing perks for hip firing under STR are also semi useless as you really don't need them.

Over all the game isn't balanced, it's relatively broken actually. hehe
the things you said are debate able. especially with the new survival overhaul. AND if they deside to bring all the features the new survival has, and make it it's own mode with out toggles, and give the rest toggles. garentuee it'll balance out.
Bored Peon Apr 9, 2016 @ 8:44pm 
Most only get the first rank of medic in order to set up clinics. Clinics are EXTREMELY useful in the new survival because you get rid of illnesses for 15 caps.

Originally posted by Kameraden:
getting the recoil reducing perks for hip firing under STR are also semi useless as you really don't need them.

The hip firing perk is useful for those hardcore players that play without use VATS. If you mostly use VATS then the perk is useless.
Last edited by Bored Peon; Apr 9, 2016 @ 8:47pm
K Apr 9, 2016 @ 8:48pm 
Now THAT clinic thing is awesome to know. Cheers.
Last edited by K; Apr 9, 2016 @ 8:48pm
Darth Xile Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:11pm 
I'm a YouTuber, and I always take Medic.
K Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:14pm 
*stands up*

No! I am Spart- I mean, a YouTuber!
Last edited by K; Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:15pm
Sentient_Toaster Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by lewislemitar2:
the things you said are debate able. especially with the new survival overhaul. AND if they deside to bring all the features the new survival has, and make it it's own mode with out toggles, and give the rest toggles. garentuee it'll balance out.

Some perks are pretty weak, though. It's fairly hard to justify a full perk point for +10 energy resistance , +10 damage resistance or +10 radiation resistance when you could put in Armorer to faciitate upgrading all your armor. The top ranks of Lockpicking and Hacking confer extremely low benefit -- bobby pins are fairly common, inexpensive, and light; while a failed hacking attempt should be near unheard of and only costs you time. The second rank of Aquaboy is a little odd; for the most part, unless you're typically diving into the ocean while under fire, or trying to swim out to a Mirelurk Queen for some reason. Ghoulish is meh, VANS is usually not terribly critical (there's a couple of odd quests like the Hub 360 MILA quest where pathing is very non-obvious, but it's usually nowhere near that bad)...

Hell. Anybody take Quick Hands or Fortune Finder, at all?

Critical Banker is sweet (having four guaranteed hits stored up!) and Grim Reaper's Sprint can proc 35% of the time, which is huge -- very nice if you're using unarmed combat since Iron Fist 5 gives your critical hits a 100% chance to paralyze the opponent.
bloodymonarch Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:
Originally posted by lewislemitar2:
the things you said are debate able. especially with the new survival overhaul. AND if they deside to bring all the features the new survival has, and make it it's own mode with out toggles, and give the rest toggles. garentuee it'll balance out.

Some perks are pretty weak, though. It's fairly hard to justify a full perk point for +10 energy resistance , +10 damage resistance or +10 radiation resistance when you could put in Armorer to faciitate upgrading all your armor. The top ranks of Lockpicking and Hacking confer extremely low benefit -- bobby pins are fairly common, inexpensive, and light; while a failed hacking attempt should be near unheard of and only costs you time. The second rank of Aquaboy is a little odd; for the most part, unless you're typically diving into the ocean while under fire, or trying to swim out to a Mirelurk Queen for some reason. Ghoulish is meh, VANS is usually not terribly critical (there's a couple of odd quests like the Hub 360 MILA quest where pathing is very non-obvious, but it's usually nowhere near that bad)...

Hell. Anybody take Quick Hands or Fortune Finder, at all?

Critical Banker is sweet (having four guaranteed hits stored up!) and Grim Reaper's Sprint can proc 35% of the time, which is huge -- very nice if you're using unarmed combat since Iron Fist 5 gives your critical hits a 100% chance to paralyze the opponent.

I take faster reloading on almost all of my characters. It saves a lot of time when you don't use VATS. A character is going to get many hours, so the amount of time saved reloading really adds up in the long run.

Agility in general seems to save me time.
Last edited by bloodymonarch; Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:28pm
azxcvbnm321 Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:33pm 
Because the Youtube players are the best there is and know everything about the game...NOT.

I've always gotten the first perk in Medic just so I can open up Surgery Centers. It's even more useful in Survival because I can get my rads and any diseases healed.
Freakachu Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:34pm 
Fudgemuppet takes it for literally every build.
Stoob Apr 9, 2016 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Kasterix:
*stands up*

No! I am Spart- I mean, a YouTuber!
I'm Brian and so's my wife!
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