Decorating my new home -help needed.

[boeriemore]

In workshop mode I can build something or use something I have previously stored. I want to place a bottle of wine on a counter but how? In my inventory
the option is to drink it or drop it. If I drop it it falls to the floor. I pick it up again and it goes back into my inventory. This is a simple example but I would also like to place a pool table in the house and other odds and ends that are not displayed in the workshop mode. Are certain unusual decorations available
from traders?

[Tex_Recoil]

There are no decorations I know of from vendors, its hard to place items, you have to use the e-key (if playing on pc) but you have to be were youwont pick it up to inventory. Im sure there are video on you tube showing how to do this. But be mindful that right now some items after placed will fall throw the floor once you leave and fast travel back to the settlement cell. There are mods to do Decorations, never used. So im no help with that. Good luck.

[>Mar-X-maN<]

There is a mod to do that. I wouldn't bother doing that without it because NPCs will quickly ruin your effords otherwise. Maybe Beth patches in a similiar functionality.

[AndyRobby]

Drop your stuff then enter build mode to pick up and place. They can be knocked off though and sometimes fall through furniture I lost 4 or 5 of the small robot models this way.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/478878785542383311/00EC4CA0A9311D72CB3BC6FE84E609056E0EC8AE/

[Rex Powercolt]

When you drop it look at it then hold e to grab and you can place it down. It will just get knocked around though so you could use OCDecorator mod

[Jo]

Originally posted by Rex Powercolt:

When you drop it look at it then hold e to grab and you can place it down. It will just get knocked around though so you could use OCDecorator mod

Yup. OCDecorator is the way to go (one of my favorite mods). Place the items you want in Workshop mode (if it's things like bottles and other decorative clutter like that it will appear under the Furniture/Clutter section).

Your settlers won't knock it over, neither will you (since you can't pick it up using the E key) and it will stay put. You can move it afterwards by going into Workshop mode like any other piece of furniture.

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by AndyRobby:

Drop your stuff then enter build mode to pick up and place. They can be knocked off though and sometimes fall through furniture I lost 4 or 5 of the small robot models this way.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/478878785542383311/00EC4CA0A9311D72CB3BC6FE84E609056E0EC8AE/

Off course. I should have thought of that. Drop then pick up in build mode.
I want a pool table for the games room. Someone had one in a video I watched. How could I acquire one?

[paperghost]

Originally posted by derbyshire:

Originally posted by AndyRobby:

Drop your stuff then enter build mode to pick up and place. They can be knocked off though and sometimes fall through furniture I lost 4 or 5 of the small robot models this way.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/478878785542383311/00EC4CA0A9311D72CB3BC6FE84E609056E0EC8AE/

Off course. I should have thought of that. Drop then pick up in build mode.
I want a pool table for the games room. Someone had one in a video I watched. How could I acquire one?

pool table should be in the tables category. honestly, you're better off doing what others have suggested - use the OCDecorator mod. the game engine loads in smaller objects before larger ones, which is why half your placed items will end up on the floor, in the ground and anywhere else you can imagine. either the bots will knock it all over or half of it will go missing. i still don't understand why bethesda give you the vanilla option to build shelves that you effectively can't put anything on.

OCDecorator gives you a prebuilt selection of objects to place, and also a "dispenser" which lets you duplicate and copy any ingame object that you can pick up which isn't on their default list. so you can put down shelves and place pieces of power armour, for example. oh, OCDecorator also lets you build a deathclaw hand trophy which looks a bit more impressive than a brahmin.

[boeriemore]

My wine bottles, vases, cups etc are still on the counter I placed them on after two days game play. I got the pool table and all balls, cues and triangle in
the room on my right on fast travelling to Fort Hagen. Are the balls now likely to fall through the table? Holding thumbs.

[paperghost]

Originally posted by derbyshire:

My wine bottles, vases, cups etc are still on the counter I placed them on after two days game play. I got the pool table and all balls, cues and triangle in
the room on my right on fast travelling to Fort Hagen. Are the balls now likely to fall through the table? Holding thumbs.

eventually you'll walk into town and find it all over the place. it's not guaranteed but it is very likely, especially if you fast travel into a settlement.

i have some example shots in screens from what you can do with an hour or so of messing about with ocdecorator http://steamcommunity.com/id/paperghost/screenshots/?appid=377160&sort=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=imagewall

it opens out the building aspect of the game so much, comes highly recommended from me (alongside the mod which lets you place weapons on wall mounted boards!)

[ronr42]

OK, you Can setup a display without using OCD decorator or the workshop and have Almost all items placed stay put, including the robot models. **Pool balls won't fall through the table if you follow these simple rules;

1. Only setup a display in a settlement that has No settlers! Settlers will knock your displays down and steal things from them. My displays are on Spectacle island where happiness starts at 50% and stays that way even without setting up defences or planting crops. Just don't setup a beacon or send settlers there. FYI; If you don't plant crops your settlement will Never get attacked.

2. Once you start displaying items you MUST ONLY fast travel from and back to your settlement!!! Each settlement is made up of several cells that must all load at the same time inorder for you displays to remain intact. When you fast travel out and back in the loading screen allows all the cells to load before the settlement renders. When you walk out and back in the cells do not all load at the same time causing your display to end up looking like you set off a mini nuke in your home.

3. Now, drop up to 20 items on the ground, menu save, not quicksave. Load that save then place your items where you want them by highlighting them and holding E to pick them up. You can rotate the axis of the item you want to place with left and right mouse. You can change what axis they rotate on by tapping L-shift while holding the item when you are standing still. All items can be placed in the exact position you want them in. And when placing items hit caps lock to walk with the item or your item may fly across the room if you don't walk. Once you get your 20 or so items placed menu save again and load that save. **When displaying things you Can overwrite your saves with no ill affects.**

4. There are a few items that you may have to place twice for them to stay put. The robot models are a good example of that. After placing them, saving and loading that save they may still fall through the table or shelf you have them on once you fast travel from and back to your settlement. If that happens just put them back and save and load after you do. Then they will stay put even after fast travelling.

5. Remember to Never walk to or from the settlement your display is in!!!! I have placed well over 2,000 items on Spectacle island and all but a very few stay exactly where I placed them. The few that don't I just place back where they were and they usually stay put the second time. It's almost like you have to get them Locked into or Burned into your save files by saving a few times after placing the finicky items.

Have fun collecting and setting up your display, I know I do. :)

Edit; LOL, Jangles is a pain to place due to it's ragdoll affect!!!!!

[AndyRobby]

Originally posted by ronr42:

OK, you Can setup a display without using OCD decorator or the workshop and have Almost all items placed stay put, including the robot models. **Pool balls won't fall through the table if you follow these simple rules;

1. Only setup a display in a settlement that has No settlers! Settlers will knock your displays down and steal things from them. My displays are on Spectacle island where happiness starts at 50% and stays that way even without setting up defences or planting crops. Just don't setup a beacon or send settlers there. FYI; If you don't plant crops your settlement will Never get attacked.

2. Once you start displaying items you MUST ONLY fast travel from and back to your settlement!!! Each settlement is made up of several cells that must all load at the same time inorder for you displays to remain intact. When you fast travel out and back in the loading screen allows all the cells to load before the settlement renders. When you walk out and back in the cells do not all load at the same time causing your display to end up looking like you set off a mini nuke in your home.

3. Now, drop up to 20 items on the ground, menu save, not quicksave. Load that save then place your items where you want them by highlighting them and holding E to pick them up. You can rotate the axis of the item you want to place with left and right mouse. You can change what axis they rotate on by tapping L-shift while holding the item when you are standing still. All items can be placed in the exact position you want them in. And when placing items hit caps lock to walk with the item or your item may fly across the room if you don't walk. Once you get your 20 or so items placed menu save again and load that save. **When displaying things you Can overwrite your saves with no ill affects.**

4. There are a few items that you may have to place twice for them to stay put. The robot models are a good example of that. After placing them, saving and loading that save they may still fall through the table or shelf you have them on once you fast travel from and back to your settlement. If that happens just put them back and save and load after you do. Then they will stay put even after fast travelling.

5. Remember to Never walk to or from the settlement your display is in!!!! I have placed well over 2,000 items on Spectacle island and all but a very few stay exactly where I placed them. The few that don't I just place back where they were and they usually stay put the second time. It's almost like you have to get them Locked into or Burned into your save files by saving a few times after placing the finicky items.

Have fun collecting and setting up your display, I know I do. :)

Edit; LOL, Jangles is a pain to place due to it's ragdoll affect!!!!!

Excellent job great help

[boeriemore]

AndyRobby what you say is mind boggling. I am adding to my "establishment"
and will monitor, checking daily on all items. Currently the settlers are only using my beds and chairs.

[boeriemore]

Today I found one beer bottle knocked over on the counter. I then walked past a coffee table and knocked over some cups myself. I have now made sure that nothing has been placed near the edge of a table.

[paperghost]

Originally posted by derbyshire:

Today I found one beer bottle knocked over on the counter. I then walked past a coffee table and knocked over some cups myself. I have now made sure that nothing has been placed near the edge of a table.

i kinda feel like i'm trying to get you to sign up to the dark side or something ;) the building mods really do open everything up in amazing ways, but having said that half of them are already going to need major work when survival comes out of beta so it may be worth waiting a few weeks at least for fixes to be applied.

[AndyRobby]

On my original game I lost my little chrome robot models through the bartop and never found them again. I have returned and seen my stuff fallen over and on the floor and just moved them back. That was all before any mods where introduced. Once I reached the end game I got the longer powerlines and the fusebox generator, Greener grass and the food planters and spent the rest of the month sorting out the settlements. I didnt realy think about the items anymore only diamond city pad is as the pic so nobody disturbs anything there. Maybe the alchoholic woman who just walks in pestering me to find her poor hubby lol. But mods on the original is the best way to play once you atchieved what you want in the game as far as missions go.