Mr. Handy Fuel

[Frondson]

What is it used for? If Mr. Handy's need it to function, how are so many still operational?

If they need it for their flamethrowers, why can Codsworth still use his without you giving him any?

If it lasts for hundreds of years, why are they sold en masse like propane and why didnt the people before the war use it to stave off the resource wars? Maybe it does last that long and the wars occured because America was using the last of that resource on frivolous items like Mr. Handys?

[Bansheebutt]

It's just a standard junk item.

And just remember that Bethesda didn't put that much thought in it, so neither should you.

[Russty]

doesn't it contain oil for crafting?

[stabbykitteh]

Originally posted by Russtychop:

doesn't it contain oil for crafting?

Yes.

[lpnlizard27]

Although the thruster on a Mr.Handy appears to be some sort of rocket combustion, im pretty sure theres a line from codsworth that mentions his turbines are atomic powered. That leads me to belive that the Mr.Handy fuel is nuclear in origin.

[Frondson]

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

It's just a standard junk item.

And just remember that Bethesda didn't put that much thought in it, so neither should you.

That's not satiafying. Suspend my disbelief.

Originally posted by Russtychop:

doesn't it contain oil for crafting?

Sure, but the manufacturers of Mr. Handy fuel didnt intend for their consumers to use it to build turrets and such.

[ctocriddle1]

I could make a crack about "Lore" and get everyone upset but..... Figure same way a turet never needs ammo, a generator never needs fuel....

Of course if we tried to explain anything in Fallout 4 we could go nu7ts. How can you launch a tactical nuke into a group of 5 raiders and only kill 1.... I mean it is a tactical nuke.

How does the BOS keep making vertibirds while in the commonwealth since it look slike everyone with a gun can shoot one down? Must have a huge factory in DC and a unknown supply chain and unlimited crews being sent north... right?

[Bansheebutt]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

That leads me to belive that the Mr.Handy fuel is nuclear in origin.

Yet, as a junk item it does not yield Nuclear Material, but Oil.

Originally posted by Frondson:

That's not satiafying.\

Bethesda games rarely are in this matter.

[Russty]

Originally posted by Frondson:

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

It's just a standard junk item.

And just remember that Bethesda didn't put that much thought in it, so neither should you.

That's not satiafying. Suspend my disbelief.

Originally posted by Russtychop:

doesn't it contain oil for crafting?

Sure, but the manufacturers of Mr. Handy fuel didnt intend for their consumers to use it to build turrets and such.

Yes sorry pal I didn't fully twig your post 'till I re read it ........good point btw

[lpnlizard27]

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

That leads me to belive that the Mr.Handy fuel is nuclear in origin.

Yet, as a junk item it does not yield Nuclear Material, but Oil.

Yep, but that means jack and squat.

Now explain this one away
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=605811863

[Russty]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

Yet, as a junk item it does not yield Nuclear Material, but Oil.

Yep, but that means jack and squat.

Now explain this one away
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=605811863

:)

[Shahadem]

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

It's just a standard junk item.

And just remember that Bethesda didn't put that much thought in it, so neither should you.

If the setting involves a hot war begun by a figth between the US and China over the last barrels of crude oil in Alaska, then presence of Mr. Handy Fuel containers casts doubt on the setting so we should put a lot of thought into it just as Bethesda put a lot of thought into it. Mr. Handys need fuel but fuel in the world is so scarce that two countries fought a war to get the last couple of barrels of it which lead to the nuclear holocaust of the setting. Do you see the huge problem here? Mr. Handys should no longer be flying around, hell they shouldn't have been manufactured in the first place. The world right before the nuclear holocaust was supposed to be a world of tremendous scarcity due to global resource shortages. That's the story and it needs to be supported by the setting. Bethesda massively failed here.

There are some things that can be handwaved away, but not things which are essential to the plot and setting. So its fine that the BoS has a nearly limitless supply of vertibirds being shipped up from DC so that it can engage the Institute in a war to see who blows up the other one first. Its fine that one mutfruit plant feeds a Settler for that Settler's entire life even though it would take several acres to feed one person for a year. Just as its fine that Settlers drink irradiated water without any negative effects even though that would eventually kill the player. But it isn't fine to tell me that extreme scarcity eventually lead to the US and China blowing the world up with nukes even though the world you show me moments before those nukes fall is one of excessive surplus and wasteful consumption.

[ElanaAhova]

Originally posted by ctocriddle1:

I could make a crack about "Lore" and get everyone upset but..... ... a generator never needs fuel....

Of course if we tried to explain anything in Fallout 4 we could go nu7ts. How can you launch a tactical nuke into a group of 5 raiders and only kill 1.... I mean it is a tactical nuke.

...

I have puzzled over this as well. I just pretend the generators are actually solar powered with really efficcient storage batteries attached. A mod to make them look solar powered, and end the dreadful noise they make would be a godsend.

[Awen]

Well, you always find them near other Mr. Handy items, right? Like near the box the robot came in? Perhaps whatever the fuel is just lasts forever (or a really really long time) after the initial fuel up? Or it's not out of the question they can fuel themselves...they seem pretty...handy.

[MasterShakeEz]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Originally posted by Bansheebot:

It's just a standard junk item.

And just remember that Bethesda didn't put that much thought in it, so neither should you.

If the setting involves a hot war begun by a figth between the US and China over the last barrels of crude oil in Alaska, then presence of Mr. Handy Fuel containers casts doubt on the setting so we should put a lot of thought into it just as Bethesda put a lot of thought into it. Mr. Handys need fuel but fuel in the world is so scarce that two countries fought a war to get the last couple of barrels of it which lead to the nuclear holocaust of the setting. Do you see the huge problem here? Mr. Handys should no longer be flying around, hell they shouldn't have been manufactured in the first place. The world right before the nuclear holocaust was supposed to be a world of tremendous scarcity due to global resource shortages. That's the story and it needs to be supported by the setting. Bethesda massively failed here.

There are some things that can be handwaved away, but not things which are essential to the plot and setting. So its fine that the BoS has a nearly limitless supply of vertibirds being shipped up from DC so that it can engage the Institute in a war to see who blows up the other one first. Its fine that one mutfruit plant feeds a Settler for that Settler's entire life even though it would take several acres to feed one person for a year. Just as its fine that Settlers drink irradiated water without any negative effects even though that would eventually kill the player. But it isn't fine to tell me that extreme scarcity eventually lead to the US and China blowing the world up with nukes even though the world you show me moments before those nukes fall is one of excessive surplus and wasteful consumption.

Everything you are going on about is called capitalism. It dont matter how scarce something is if someone can pay for it.

[White Knight]

My guess would be that this is something that will be included in DLCs possibly? Kind of like how water pumps being used to fill bottles suddenly makes sense with the new beta. Same thing for all the beds, mutated plants, glowing mushrooms, etc.

The way I look at it, someone had to draw those things. Then they got coded and placed in the environment. Somebody thought they would be used for something, that much is clear. Whether it is some sort of leftover from a half-thought out idea or not, I couldn't say but it's too specific not to have some kind of purpose.