The Tato Problem

[Polyphemus]

I have 18 settlements, with populations between 17 and 22 settlers. All of them grow some Tatos (but other things as well). All settlements are linked by trade routes. I -never- find spare Tatos in my workbench. All the other crops have spare production, but Tatos don't.

This appears to be due to a bug in Abernathy Farm. There are a bunch of dead Tato plants there, and if you try to revive them, you will be told you need 1 Tato to restore each one. You can do this - the game will accept your Tato, in an effort to revive the dead plant. Trouble is, it never does revive. You can pour infinite numbers of good Tatos into repairing the Abernathy plants, but they're bugged, and they never recover.

Now the thing is, your settlers will automatically try to repair damaged plants, and they will use the resources they find in the workbench to do it. And that's why there are never any spare Tatos. The settlers are using them to try to fill the infinite hole at Abernathy Farm.

[Shahadem]

There are two things going on here.
1) The bug
2) Settlers consume Tatos before any other crop, including the Tatos belonging to other Settlements linked by a supply line. In order to produce enough Tatos to produce vegetable starch you essentially need to produce enough tatos to exceed your total population amongst all linked settlements. This is of course absolutely ridiculous implementation because most of the crops are utterly worthless and Settlers should be eating the worthless crops first and then should be consuming Tatos, Corn and Mutfruit in such a way that they leave behind an equal proportion of all 3.

[Bored Peon]

The tato plant in Abernathy are notorious for bugging out. You need to pick them all up when you first get the settlement to avoid it. If you leave and come back they can bug out.

I also ran into an interesting bug while visiting Abernathy before owning it. One of the tato plants broke and when I got back to Sanctuary it told me I had broken crops, lol.

[danconnors]

Well, you know it's in the Commonwealth, and there's a lot of we Irish living there. This is why potatomatos are always in short supply. We don't consider it's a meal unless it has potatoes.

[Polyphemus]

Originally posted by danconnors:

Well, you know it's in the Commonwealth, and there's a lot of we Irish living there. This is why potatomatos are always in short supply. We don't consider it's a meal unless it has potatoes.

Taking my own thread off-topic here. I remember some years ago that a university research department was trying to produce a plant that would grow tomatoes at the top, and potatoes at the bottom (apparently the two plants are very closely related). I never heard how that worked out. Ideal for Irish/Italians, I suppose.

[danconnors]

Yeah, mashed potatoes ans sphagetti sauce off the same plant.

[ElanaAhova]

Originally posted by Toadflax:

Originally posted by danconnors:

Well, you know it's in the Commonwealth, and there's a lot of we Irish living there. This is why potatomatos are always in short supply. We don't consider it's a meal unless it has potatoes.

Taking my own thread off-topic here. I remember some years ago that a university research department was trying to produce a plant that would grow tomatoes at the top, and potatoes at the bottom (apparently the two plants are very closely related). I never heard how that worked out. Ideal for Irish/Italians, I suppose.

Tomatoes and potatoes are both part of the 'nightshade' family. Not that long ago, people believed tomatoes were poison; "deadly nightshade.'

[Thatdude]

Tato is a hybrid between tomato and potato. Imagine this: eating French fries without dipping it in ketchup, and it already has ketchup flavor in it. Mind BLOWN.
Greatest thing nuclear war bring us. That's why it's always in shortage.

[Concrete Galoshes]

Pretty sure crops are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.
Never had issues with the initial release. Now I'm playing on survival.
Have 50 Tato plants.
50 Melon plants.
25 corn.
I only get corn and melon.
Like. 95 corn and 12 melons.
Not to mention I feel like it use to be 2-3 days of sleeping and the resources should be in the workbench.
Now it takes up to a week.
Kinda pissing me off.

[The_Pastmaster]

Originally posted by Thatdude:

Tato is a hybrid between tomato and potato. Imagine this: eating French fries without dipping it in ketchup, and it already has ketchup flavor in it. Mind BLOWN.
Greatest thing nuclear war bring us. That's why it's always in shortage.

The people say it's more like a vegetable that tastes slightly of potato and tomato with the consistency and texture of both mashed together. So kind of a soft watery potato.

[Shitbird]

Tatos are broken.

Im on my 4th play-through, this time on Survival, with over 1.5k hours played. Im really into building balanced settlements and have a comprehensive trade network built up on this play through.

*** Tato production is broken. Totally broken. Bethesda I love you, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fix this ♥♥♥♥ ****

I have been planting exponentially more tatos as I expanded on this playthrough....yet just got back to my base and i have FIVE tatos.

Put it this way .... Im at the point with resource management where I know my ♥♥♥♥ .... all of my bases are over-defended, over-watered and over-fed. When I come to pimp out my next base I have the resources to build 136 Heavy Machine Turrets, build a sky-scraper from concrete, and make 59 Industrial Water Purifiers (I mean that literally, I just counted), and everytime I visit one of my bases I get between 150 and 250 water to sell...........

....... but I have FIVE tatos.

Tatos are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and need to be fixed.

For now.... I would advise having 50% tato in any base just so if you pass through you have enough to harvest and process into Vegetable Starch.


I know this seems a bit angry for one item in a game............but adhesive IS one of the most precious things in FO4 for crafting.... and making it yourself is kinda borked until you un-F**ck the tato bug.

[terryt3535]

If you want tatos, just plant lots and harvest them manually. I think settlements are too bugged to rely on them working properly with no input. I haven't played since the last major update, but it used to be that you planted two tato plants for every settler, then planted 12 tato, 12 corn, 6 mutfruit and they would collect in the workbench in close to the proper ratio as long as they weren't being drained by other settlements.

[torqueblue]

Originally posted by Thatdude:

Tato is a hybrid between tomato and potato. Imagine this: eating French fries without dipping it in ketchup, and it already has ketchup flavor in it. Mind BLOWN.
Greatest thing nuclear war bring us. That's why it's always in shortage.

Eh, I prefer Mustard. Spicy Brownlikemysexyskin Mustard.

As For settlers repairing broken Things. I did not know that. Tatos wasn't the issue for me It was corn. Now I got over 500 corn and 35 tatos. Weird how that worked out. Mutfruit was also an Issue aswell.

[Råb!d]

Originally posted by spezio.frances:

Originally posted by Toadflax:

Taking my own thread off-topic here. I remember some years ago that a university research department was trying to produce a plant that would grow tomatoes at the top, and potatoes at the bottom (apparently the two plants are very closely related). I never heard how that worked out. Ideal for Irish/Italians, I suppose.

Tomatoes and potatoes are both part of the 'nightshade' family. Not that long ago, people believed tomatoes were poison; "deadly nightshade.'

You can do it yourself. You have to graft the two plants together. It's not that hard.

You should be able to find Youtube videos on it.

[DouglasGrave]

It makes me wonder whether the settlers preferentially eat tatos, with the game trying to feed everyone on them before dipping into stocks of any other food

Originally posted by Råb!d:

Originally posted by spezio.frances:

Tomatoes and potatoes are both part of the 'nightshade' family. Not that long ago, people believed tomatoes were poison; "deadly nightshade.'

You can do it yourself. You have to graft the two plants together. It's not that hard.

You should be able to find Youtube videos on it.

I assume they meant breeding a plant that would do both without grafting. The main problem I'd see with it in either case is that you've got the plant splitting its energy between growing two different things, so neither one will do quite as well as if you had separate plants growing them.

[ianliew]

The tato plants in Abernathy (and there's a couple in Oberland Station too, iirc) can be fixed if you're on the PC.

Check out the notes at the bottom of the Abernathy wikia page.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Abernathy_farm