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Defektiv May 30, 2016 @ 2:49pm
Mac's Bar
I keep seeing his bar popping up in random places but never him. I'm assuming he's getting himself killed but do his empty bars end up despawning? They spawn in place of other random junk spawns that are normally part of my salvage runs but I never see them disappear.

edit: Mac not Tom.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694268068
Last edited by Defektiv; May 30, 2016 @ 4:17pm
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ChemicalBacon May 30, 2016 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Defektiv:
I keep seeing his bar popping up in random places but never him. I'm assuming he's getting himself killed but do his empty bars end up despawning? They spawn in place of other random junk spawns that are normally part of my salvage runs but I never see them disappear.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694268068
He roams from bar to bar, the bars are fixed spawns and he goes between them, i think he's marked essensial and therefore can't die
Scoob May 30, 2016 @ 4:01pm 
I wondered what those seemingly random placed Bars were, never seen this Tom NPC though in many many game hours.

Scoob.
ChemicalBacon May 30, 2016 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by Scoob:
I wondered what those seemingly random placed Bars were, never seen this Tom NPC though in many many game hours.

Scoob.
He's hard to track down.
Most of his bars are in off track locations and he is very rarely at them.
On occasions I have found him on the road, where he's talked and sold me things like he was at the bar he is going to.
Other times i've found NPCs around the bar, but Tom has been absent
Defektiv May 30, 2016 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Defektiv:
I keep seeing his bar popping up in random places but never him. I'm assuming he's getting himself killed but do his empty bars end up despawning? They spawn in place of other random junk spawns that are normally part of my salvage runs but I never see them disappear.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694268068
He roams from bar to bar, the bars are fixed spawns and he goes between them, i think he's marked essensial and therefore can't die

I got his name wrong, its Mac I guess. I think? Wiki says he can die.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mac_(Fallout_4)
ChemicalBacon May 30, 2016 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Defektiv:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
He roams from bar to bar, the bars are fixed spawns and he goes between them, i think he's marked essensial and therefore can't die

I got his name wrong, its Mac I guess. I think? Wiki says he can die.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mac_(Fallout_4)
I'm probably mixing it up with another NPC, Tom really rings a bell somehow.
Defektiv May 30, 2016 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Defektiv:

I got his name wrong, its Mac I guess. I think? Wiki says he can die.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mac_(Fallout_4)
I'm probably mixing it up with another NPC, Tom really rings a bell somehow.

Did me too, maybe Tinker Tom. idk but every time I see the bar I think Tom for some reason.
ChemicalBacon May 30, 2016 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by Defektiv:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I'm probably mixing it up with another NPC, Tom really rings a bell somehow.

Did me too, maybe Tinker Tom. idk but every time I see the bar I think Tom for some reason.
Eitherway, aside from the non essensial thing, I'm pretty sure thats how he works.
I've met him maybe 2-3 times over the course of 500 or so hours. Mostly in the early game because
A) He's most likely alive and not dead in a bush somewhere, never to be found again
and
B) A lot of his bars seem to be around Malden/Lexington
josseriot May 30, 2016 @ 7:43pm 
I just stumbled across Mac's unattended bar (and yeah, his name is Mac) in the middle of an intersection when I was going from the BADTFL office to Kendall Hospital for the RR Butcher Bill quest. That's Cambridge area. But yeah, I was wondering about that. I have only found Mac once in any of my playthroughs before--and I have just over 400 hours--and so finding his bar without him was quite an oddity for me. I'm assuming Mac himself is dead in this playthrough, as he was nowhere to be found.

In the playthrough where I did find him, he and his bar were just south of Sanctuary, near the border of the map just past that tower where a group of 4 raiders will spawn, west of Abernathy Farm and across the river. I uploaded this screenshot it because at the time I had no idea who he was suppose to be. Just seemed so weird to find some dude tending a bar at the edge of the map.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=663081681

Maybe it's worth noting that in both playthroughs I was under level 20 when I found his bar.
Last edited by josseriot; May 30, 2016 @ 7:47pm
Xyzzy May 30, 2016 @ 7:59pm 
Mac. 2nd time I went he was there, small trader inventory, restricted opening hours. I bought beer he does have dialogue lines.
he said his great plan was to set up in place where no other bars are, therefore he will get all the customers. other nutty theories like that he has.
Defektiv May 30, 2016 @ 9:21pm 
I just hope since he is clearly dead somewhere in my current save that these empty bars don't continue to pop up and eventually take over all the exterior random loot spawn locations so all I have is a map full of empty bars.
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