Fallout 4

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Taylor Jul 28, 2016 @ 1:07pm
More bugs the longer you play
Hello, my Fallout 4 Game gets progressively buggier the longer I play ( in one sitting ) I end up having to restart every odd hour or so. Reinstalled and validated.

Notable bugs: progressively 'corrupted' textures; Textures slowly devolve into a rainbow-armageddon of color.

Survival mode: Hunger & Thirst icons will, after ~ 3 hours and in severe bugginess, display incorrectly. (being hungry when not/thirsty when not.)

Settlement Settlers sometimes become completely unresponsive.

Some NPC's will produce a buzzing/crackling sound for no apparent reason.

In severe cases, in-game music and sounds will become glitchy, freezing and crackling very often.

Trees and grass will sway to an EXTREME degree, very very fast, jittery motions.

Ammo HUD will display incorrect value (occaisionally. Most often will display 999 spare ammo, but to fix this simply empty your current magazine and reload.)

Companions will stand in one place, unmoving - not using the STAY command.

That's about it... other than oddball bugs, like grenades hitting invisble objects, NPC's becoming invisible, and your player character also becoming invisible... My bug complaint.

Then again, AMD SUX and I have AMD so...
Gr8 M8.
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JustOnePepsi Jul 28, 2016 @ 1:11pm 
Running AMD has nothing to do with it. Unless you're experiencing performance issues or visual corruption, then those things may have something to do with your hardware.

Bethesda games generally do have issues over time, but not every issue is related to another. Correlation does not imply causation.

UI bugs can sometimes be a driver issue. Have you updated drivers?

Also, any mods you may be running can cause issues if they're poorly made or not compatible with each other.

If you expect help with your problem, you need to provide more detail. If you just wanted to come here and vent about some issues you've had well... cool story, bro.
Taylor Jul 28, 2016 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by HomicidalGrouse:
Running AMD has nothing to do with it. Unless you're experiencing performance issues or visual corruption, then those things may have something to do with your hardware.

Bethesda games generally do have issues over time, but not every issue is related to another. Correlation does not imply causation.

UI bugs can sometimes be a driver issue. Have you updated drivers?

Also, any mods you may be running can cause issues if they're poorly made or not compatible with each other.

If you expect help with your problem, you need to provide more detail. If you just wanted to come here and vent about some issues you've had well... cool story, bro.

- In my experience, games have issues with AMD. Generally much less support for it.
- My drivers are always updated. Because I have AMD, and this is 2016. Computers do that now.
- No mods, though I did try the unofficial patch, which really prolonged the graphical 'corruption' effect, and fixed a TON of other bugs, but also released it's own large batch of bugs as well; particularly with NPC's.

I don't expect help with my problem, because it just boils down to something I can't do on MY side to get fixed. I have an AMD CPU and GPU, and after a couple years of experience with it, it ALWAYS has less support for it; And Bethesda just doesn't have time to fix every little issue with every computer build.
JustOnePepsi Jul 28, 2016 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Scoddri:
Originally posted by HomicidalGrouse:
Running AMD has nothing to do with it. Unless you're experiencing performance issues or visual corruption, then those things may have something to do with your hardware.

Bethesda games generally do have issues over time, but not every issue is related to another. Correlation does not imply causation.

UI bugs can sometimes be a driver issue. Have you updated drivers?

Also, any mods you may be running can cause issues if they're poorly made or not compatible with each other.

If you expect help with your problem, you need to provide more detail. If you just wanted to come here and vent about some issues you've had well... cool story, bro.

- In my experience, games have issues with AMD. Generally much less support for it.
- My drivers are always updated. Because I have AMD, and this is 2016. Computers do that now.
- No mods, though I did try the unofficial patch, which really prolonged the graphical 'corruption' effect, and fixed a TON of other bugs, but also released it's own large batch of bugs as well; particularly with NPC's.

I don't expect help with my problem, because it just boils down to something I can't do on MY side to get fixed. I have an AMD CPU and GPU, and after a couple years of experience with it, it ALWAYS has less support for it; And Bethesda just doesn't have time to fix every little issue with every computer build.

I have AMD as well. It has nothing to do with anything you listed. That's the point. Half the stuff you listed is either common or completely unrelated to hardware.

The only thing that COULD have something to do with the fact that you're running AMD hardware is the UI bugs with icons. Though this would likely be more of a software issue and not have anything to do with the fact that you're running AMD itself. There was a pretty severe issue with the Compass after AMD released Crimson, but that has since been fixed. I haven't heard of anyone else having issues with other UI elements.

And yeah, it's the current year! Hooray! We have drivers that update themselves!

Except... you shouldn't actually auto-update drivers. You should completely uninstall drivers before installing new ones. This goes for both AMD and nVidia.

There's an app called Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU), and it is a glorious little tool that will wipe every last trace of your existing drivers from your machine, allowing you to install the most recent drivers without a chance of them being corrupted in any way by a previous installation. You might want to start there.
opjose Jul 28, 2016 @ 1:50pm 
All of the Op's posted issues seem to be related.

The texture glitching, gradual degradation, missing icons, scripting behaviours, etc. all point to a general corruption of what the system is holding in RAM memory as the game is being played.

If no mods are installed, the OP should look at other potential causes outside of F4... including

- AV software
- Background tasks / software
- VCC++ Libraries being out of sync.
- DLL search paths
- Codecs
- Video drivers
- DMA errors
- Low system resources ( why doesn't ANYONE post full specs!?!? )
- Multiple monitors (see low system resources above).
- etc. etc. etc.

Not really a Fallout problem.


Last edited by opjose; Jul 28, 2016 @ 2:18pm
Xyzzy Jul 28, 2016 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by opjose:
All of the Op's posted issues seem to be related.

The texture glitching, gradual degradation, missing icons, scripting behaviours, etc. all point to a general corruption of what the system is holding in RAM memory as the game is being played.

If no mods are installed, the OP should look at other potential causes outside of F4... including

- AV software
- Background tasks / software
- VCC++ Libraries being out of sync.
- DLL search paths
- Codecs
- Video drivers
- DMA errors
- Low system resources ( why doesn't ANYONE post full specs!?!? )
- Multiple monitors (see low system resources above).
- etc. etc. etc.
yes, and infections, unneccesary apps running e.g browsers, toolbars, keyloggers...
Včelí medvídek Jul 28, 2016 @ 2:55pm 
Well, I am currently experiencing more and more bugs and more often as well / most different than you describe/ - so i am guessing either there is some truth in theory longer play = more buggy or new DLC caused it.
Xyzzy Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:
Well, I am currently experiencing more and more bugs and more often as well / most different than you describe/ - so i am guessing either there is some truth in theory longer play = more buggy or new DLC caused it.
no truth to that, I have clean smooth no bugs Ultra and 2200 hours played. have all dlc too.
Last edited by Xyzzy; Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:01pm
Rainbow textures are AMD problem, seems to be 390 mostly. If I change card to 290 or 780, no rainbow textures. It seems to texture cache problem. Restart game and tectures are okay. Other is use mod textures those textures that clitches. I played to level 277 without any mods and experienced rainbow textures everytime. no with textures mods, no problemo....
Zorlond Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:17pm 
Oh look, another post about glitchy graphics and a dozen posts assuming it's the hardware's fault.

Look around the forums some more, all of you. EVERYONE is having graphics problems, including your precious 'high end' technology.

It's.
A.
Buggy.
Game.
opjose Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:37pm 
No.

Hundreds of thousands of players are running it just fine.

While that's not to say there are no scripting or storyline glitches, the engine itself is pretty solid if your computer has no problems otherwise.
Last edited by opjose; Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:38pm
Panda-Bishop Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:47pm 
Rainbow textures and unresponsive settlers is fairly common, the buzzing sound is rarer but stems from a specific sound effect looping as soon as it starts (usually happens after combat), but it is the first time I've heard of the other bugs you're suffering and I'm also using both an AMD CPU and GPU.

Might be worth running a memtest and scandisk, honestly.
Zorlond Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by opjose:
No.

Hundreds of thousands of players are running it just fine.
No, hundreds of thousands of players are running it Without Complaining.

That's a very important distinction. Eventually people realize that folks like you just don't and won't get it and stop bothering to ask for help. Besides, the game does RUN, it just doesn't run well.
Undying Zombie Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Zorlond:
Originally posted by opjose:
No.

Hundreds of thousands of players are running it just fine.
No, hundreds of thousands of players are running it Without Complaining.

That's a very important distinction. Eventually people realize that folks like you just don't and won't get it and stop bothering to ask for help. Besides, the game does RUN, it just doesn't run well.
Hah yea my brother is one of those people who wont go to forums and complain/talk about issues he has encountered. ( He will look up possible fixes and/or for others who encountered it but other than that.. )

I will mention some of the issues I have but not all.. Simply due to the fact that not all are that big of a deal. Hell I not once mentioned issues I encountered in FO NV on the forums for it. ( And several other games. )

This one I only semi mentioned some issues I have encountered in oen of the threads here. That said some games I have talked a lot about issues I have encountered like Dead by Daylight. Partially due to the fact that I know the devs actually look at the forums and so forth.

Do I think some things need to be fixed for FO4 as well as enhancements made for performance issues? Yes. ( More so since last patch for me and I know of others made things worse performance wise. ) However so far I have seen. They do not appear to look at these forums at all. So not much of a use in talking about something that others have already mentioned.
opjose Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Zorlond:

No, hundreds of thousands of players are running it Without Complaining.

Your first correct statement, as they have nothing to complain about in terms of being able to run the game.
Spocks Toupee Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by opjose:
Originally posted by Zorlond:

No, hundreds of thousands of players are running it Without Complaining.

Your first correct statement, as they have nothing to complain about in terms of being able to run the game.

Look, yesterday I CTD'ed every single time I tried to scrap something in Sanctuary, I experimented and tried scrapping something under different circumstances etc about 20 - 30 times, however, I didn't come in here and complain every single time I CTDed, so YES, Zorlond is correct, not everybody has problems with the game and comes running to the forums for help, instead, some people try to work out their problems themselves, so your assumption is the incorrect one.
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