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Who are these two synths?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892755193
One in Goodneighbor, one at the Boston Airport.
The one at the Boston Airport isn't Danse... the ID is wrong.
Is the one in Goodneighbor, is that Sammy d'Synth? The T3S that was killed by the Goodneighbor watch because he was a nice person unlike the real Sammy?
Last edited by Xenon The Noble; Nov 24, 2022 @ 9:17am
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Xenon The Noble Nov 24, 2022 @ 9:16am 
If that's Sammy, then he was a run-away synth and under the control of the Rail Road. I guess I need to go back and check to see if the real Sammy was an Institute informant.
Bored Peon Nov 24, 2022 @ 11:49am 
C2-41 is most likely one of the synths in the Railroad network being spotted in Goodneighbor.

C2-41 is not Sammy because Sammy is listed as an infiltrated operator.
C2-41 is not Magnolia because she is obviously not hiding very well.

S9-43 could be just about any escaped synth.
Xenon The Noble Nov 24, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
Doh! I bet the runaway synth in Goodneighbor is Magnolia... Could have been Sammy.
Bored Peon Nov 24, 2022 @ 2:51pm 
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Sammy_(Fallout_4)
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Synth_Retention_Bureau
Sammy is an Institute field agent.

Why would the Institute label their own field agent as missing escaped synth?

You should research your theories in the wiki before presenting them.
Last edited by Bored Peon; Nov 24, 2022 @ 2:52pm
Zekiran Nov 24, 2022 @ 3:03pm 
Well it is pretty obvious that Magnolia IS a synth and they likely do know about her, whether she's that specific one, probably, but it's still vague enough that you could easily wonder who else is out there.
Bored Peon Nov 24, 2022 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Well it is pretty obvious that Magnolia IS a synth and they likely do know about her, whether she's that specific one, probably, but it's still vague enough that you could easily wonder who else is out there.
Well it is never confirmed or denied who Magnolia and Sturges are Institute synth.

Although Sturgis is definitely not an Institute synth as he can show you the way inside. Which is technically against his basic programming.

Magnolia is in full public view and not listed as an SRB operative, so I would assume Magnolia is a synth the Railroad rescued, gave new memories and a new face. The Institute is pretty possessive of their stuff so I doubt they would just leave her there if they knew she was an escapee.
Zekiran Nov 24, 2022 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Well it is pretty obvious that Magnolia IS a synth and they likely do know about her, whether she's that specific one, probably, but it's still vague enough that you could easily wonder who else is out there.
Well it is never confirmed or denied who Magnolia and Sturges are Institute synth.

Although Sturgis is definitely not an Institute synth as he can show you the way inside. Which is technically against his basic programming.

Magnolia is in full public view and not listed as an SRB operative, so I would assume Magnolia is a synth the Railroad rescued, gave new memories and a new face. The Institute is pretty possessive of their stuff so I doubt they would just leave her there if they knew she was an escapee.

Yeah though she's ... not all that memory wiped if you listen to her :D
Bored Peon Nov 24, 2022 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Well it is never confirmed or denied who Magnolia and Sturges are Institute synth.

Although Sturgis is definitely not an Institute synth as he can show you the way inside. Which is technically against his basic programming.

Magnolia is in full public view and not listed as an SRB operative, so I would assume Magnolia is a synth the Railroad rescued, gave new memories and a new face. The Institute is pretty possessive of their stuff so I doubt they would just leave her there if they knew she was an escapee.

Yeah though she's ... not all that memory wiped if you listen to her :D
Well that is the thing, depends how well they did on creating the memories, lol.

Either way there just aint enough there to provide 100% proof in either case so you just have to apply some common sense and logic to see to which makes more sense.

As I pointed out the BIG flaw with Sturgis is no synth (Railroad or Institute) is supposed to be able to reveal any information regarding the location of the Institute. Glory and Nick also confirm this in a conversation with them. Yet Sturgis is allowed to give you a map showing you the way there.
Joe Coffee Nov 24, 2022 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Zekiran:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Well it is never confirmed or denied who Magnolia and Sturges are Institute synth.

Although Sturgis is definitely not an Institute synth as he can show you the way inside. Which is technically against his basic programming.

Magnolia is in full public view and not listed as an SRB operative, so I would assume Magnolia is a synth the Railroad rescued, gave new memories and a new face. The Institute is pretty possessive of their stuff so I doubt they would just leave her there if they knew she was an escapee.

Yeah though she's ... not all that memory wiped if you listen to her :D

Go back and read that console. The Institute only thinks she's been wiped, they're only assuming. Mags probably doesn't really leave the Third Rail for anything except going to her room at the hotel. If the theory holds that ravens are synth spies, they might not know Mags has had a face change so she can walk about kinda easily, but it's assumed they're watching. Besides, Hancock is so paranoid, he's got goons on the lookout for people acting "strange". I'm sure anybody coming into GN and asking questions about runaways, no how matter discreet, is gonna be blown away. Any courser isn't going to stand a chance with KLEO practically standing near the entrance if one should try to sneak through.
Bored Peon Nov 24, 2022 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by The Jerker:
The Institute only thinks she's been wiped, they're only assuming.
Sorry, I cannot believe the Institute would allow any synth to be free.

They literally chased Harker to the Capital Wasteland.
Father almost angrily talks about them being their property about them being taken.
Father also stresses multiple times that free synths are dangerous.
DouglasGrave Nov 24, 2022 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Sorry, I cannot believe the Institute would allow any synth to be free.

They literally chased Harker to the Capital Wasteland.
Father almost angrily talks about them being their property about them being taken.
Father also stresses multiple times that free synths are dangerous.
"Harkness" was not just any synth but a courser, giving him a higher-than-average importance, especially 10 year ago.

Originally posted by Bored Peon:
As I pointed out the BIG flaw with Sturgis is no synth (Railroad or Institute) is supposed to be able to reveal any information regarding the location of the Institute. Glory and Nick also confirm this in a conversation with them. Yet Sturgis is allowed to give you a map showing you the way there.
Sturges isn't revealing anything to you because he knows you've already been to the Institute by that point.

The memory block presumably doesn't stop synths talking about Institute matters to people who already know something, as that would impede them doing their jobs inside the Institute.
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DouglasGrave Nov 24, 2022 @ 5:45pm 
Given that the Institute dispatched a courser, but there's no indication of any conflict with one at Goodneighbour, it's quite possible that C2-41 is a synth that was moved on and that the courser followed them elsewhere.

Aside from her being in the general area, there isn't anything specific that seems to point to Magnolia.

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:
The one at the Boston Airport isn't Danse... the ID is wrong.
And we don't even know if the status report is from before or after the Prydwen arrives, due to its arrival being a recent event. The site being described as too hazardous could refer either to the Brotherhood forces, or the feral ghouls there before them.
Last edited by DouglasGrave; Nov 24, 2022 @ 5:50pm
Xenon The Noble Nov 24, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
Thanks, but I already said it's not Danse so there's no need to prove me wrong.
I just wanted to know who these Synths were. It was an honest question.
DouglasGrave Nov 24, 2022 @ 10:19pm 
The bit about the Brotherhood versus ghouls is an interesting point on its own for me, even though there doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to get more information.

I'm inclined to lean towards it happening with the ghouls, if only because a synth on the run would be in more danger from the Brotherhood, but does a runaway synth fresh out of the Institute even know that?
Xenon The Noble Nov 25, 2022 @ 10:30am 
The Institute believes that escaped synths, especially those altered by the Rail Road, are particularly dangerous to the people of the Commonwealth.
The player gets this message from Shaun in the "Synth Retention" quest, where a synth mind wiped by the RR takes leadership of the Minutemen who've become raiders at Libertalia.
Aside - I can't find a date for the Quincy massacre. I found a terminal before the "Synth Retention" quest at Libertalia that explains that they were MM who fled the Quincy Massacre and were becoming raiders because they were starving. It had to be after 2282, but not that long ago. I thought MM had farms to go back to and weren't professional full time MM.
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