Survival mode is problematic

[CzechDeath]

So I've been replaying survival difficulty and I loved it until I started hating it, and unfortunately it has more to do with bugs, than being bad at the game. Here is how the normal day at comonwealth looks like for me:

I play carefully going tru the terrain searching for bed. found some great loot it has been long time since last save (because no beds)... and get suck on the terrain - no console allowed tho so load game.
- 40 minutes gone. I keep my cool.

I go faster, skip some ♥♥♥♥ make more progress, awesome loot was random and things are no longer there ... I get punched by glowing zombie - ded - 50 minutes gone. I'm still keeping my cool...

I load the game, skip tons of ♥♥♥♥, stopped caring about loot, used drugs, killed the glowing zombie, finished the quest I'm now despretly searching for bed, I see the building where I can surely save, I get jumped by supermutants, I barely make it, I've found some fusion cores and mini nuke, survived radroach... now there are no enemies in sight, nearly there the bed is just there and CTD... I'm now staring at my desktop.
No error, no warning nothing just ♥♥♥♥ YOU Dan - 90 minutes gone.

Lost my cool, punched the table and am playing with thought of uninstalling this piece of ♥♥♥♥ never to return to it.

SO there if you want to play on survival. Mutants are not the problems, not the elements, no - BUGS... BUGS, GLITCHES and no console commands. 2 times out of 3 I'm getting powned by glitches and bugs. that is not fun.

Fallout 4 darksouls edition...

Share your Survival experiences below and have a good one.

[Huxide]

after i finished far harbour with my level 134 (at the time i deleted the save) character i decided to delete the character and replay the game in survival mode.
i too tend to lose lots of progress sometimes due to the lack of beds, but i found that having a stealth build on survival mode is really great, since fusion cores for a power armor build weigh quite a bit and running around without sneaking and without power armor is a death wish frequently enough.


in the entire time i played on my new survival mode save (level 52 atm) i encountered only 2 bugs i can remember, and both are related to quests.

i do think they should enable console in survival mode though since it can be used to fix and change many things bethesda didnt, and they should also enable achievements when using mods while they're at it.

[ʙ⌁¹¹⁰¹]

I am level 42 in survival vanilla game, so far no crash.

[Killzone]

I dislike survival mode, so I play on survival mode.

[Spool]

I find a bed and sleep then continue on playing.

[CzechDeath]

Originally posted by Huxide:

after i finished far harbour with my level 134 (at the time i deleted the save) character i decided to delete the character and replay the game in survival mode.
i too tend to lose lots of progress sometimes due to the lack of beds, but i found that having a stealth build on survival mode is really great, since fusion cores for a power armor build weigh quite a bit and running around without sneaking and without power armor is a death wish frequently enough.


in the entire time i played on my new survival mode save (level 52 atm) i encountered only 2 bugs i can remember, and both are related to quests.

i do think they should enable console in survival mode though since it can be used to fix and change many things bethesda didnt, and they should also enable achievements when using mods while they're at it.

Yep that would help. I too use only mods that fix things, rather than use mods that are cheats. So I play vanilla and for some reason, it randomy CTD here and there which tends to splash bucket of frustration on my otherwise "I love this" feelings. Hence this thread.

[Charllize]

CTD in F4? What? never happen after 200 hours of playing..

[Vladimir Vega]

Ive had a couple CTD but it doesnt happen often, don't think i've ever gotten stuck (245 hours)...that's some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck. Saving in survival becomes less and less of a problem as you clear locations and take over settlements.

[CzechDeath]

Originally posted by Vladimir Vega:

Ive had a couple CTD but it doesnt happen often, don't think i've ever gotten stuck (245 hours)...that's some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck. Saving in survival becomes less and less of a problem as you clear locations and take over settlements.

Yep I have roughly 450h (396 was previous playtru on normal) I didn't have single CTD, untill this new patch... than it started and the bad luck? that one is just normal for me =D. More settlements, I'm not looking forward to build all of those from ground up again =D.

[Morrandir]

I have the console enabled via a mod and 2 different save enabler mods (one a manual quick save mod and the other a save when you smoke mod)

[Novan56]

I like everything about survival except the limited save, so i found a mod to enable quicksave and all is well. All the other new features in survival mode serves to enhance gameplay and immersion, but being unable to save game at any moment is just a pain and as OP mentioned a time wasting feature. There are so many random ways I can get killed in this game that i must quicksave every few minutes to safeguard my progression, and retry the boss fights that i keep losing.

[Zhardoz]

Originally posted by CzechDeath:

So I've been replaying survival difficulty and I loved it until I started hating it, and unfortunately it has more to do with bugs, than being bad at the game. Here is how the normal day at comonwealth looks like for me:

I play carefully going tru the terrain searching for bed. found some great loot it has been long time since last save (because no beds)... and get suck on the terrain - no console allowed tho so load game.
- 40 minutes gone. I keep my cool.

I go faster, skip some ♥♥♥♥ make more progress, awesome loot was random and things are no longer there ... I get punched by glowing zombie - ded - 50 minutes gone. I'm still keeping my cool...

I load the game, skip tons of ♥♥♥♥, stopped caring about loot, used drugs, killed the glowing zombie, finished the quest I'm now despretly searching for bed, I see the building where I can surely save, I get jumped by supermutants, I barely make it, I've found some fusion cores and mini nuke, survived radroach... now there are no enemies in sight, nearly there the bed is just there and CTD... I'm now staring at my desktop.
No error, no warning nothing just ♥♥♥♥ YOU Dan - 90 minutes gone.

Lost my cool, punched the table and am playing with thought of uninstalling this piece of ♥♥♥♥ never to return to it.

SO there if you want to play on survival. Mutants are not the problems, not the elements, no - BUGS... BUGS, GLITCHES and no console commands. 2 times out of 3 I'm getting powned by glitches and bugs. that is not fun.

Fallout 4 darksouls edition...

Share your Survival experiences below and have a good one.

i use the mod to save in survival. solved all my issues

[CzechDeath]

Yea I wanted the achievements to work, but as I see how brutal it is, the chieves can kiss my lower back... Imma probly go and grab me some qucksave mode as you guys suggested. Chieves not worth THAT much paine and lost time, which is another good point, as I am working man, I nolonger have time to throw 80 minutes per gameplay to garbage.

[Flippy]

I am having crashes to. No idea what is causing them other than it is almost definately a mod. I have the game in an excellent state and the crashing is ruining the play through.

It would be nice to know what is causing the crashes but it could be anything. I replaced all the meshes for the trees making it a lush forest of a game rather than a wasteland. It could be that.

I deleted some trash when I first started my mod and I heard that deleting items can cause crashes, maybe its that.

I also have a mod that allows more allies, maybe its that.

Either way this crashing has me disabling mod after mod and it still crashes in some areas for some reason.

The crashing for me is definately area based. Just not sure what. One spot is nearby where Cait is found. I leave there and head back to Diamond city and it crashes not far from there almost for sure.

Is it possible for there to be a message as to what caused the crash?

[Xyzzy]

maybe the new ExitSave will help you like it more.

[CzechDeath]

Great another awesome way how to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over is to get stuck in animation either entering the PowerArmor or terminal, like it happened JUST NOW... vault 81 carefully played so I dont catch rat disease ... talked to curie was gonna checkout the terminal BAM stuck... ♥♥♥♥ this... I give up... Betheda fix your ♥♥♥♥ or go ♥♥♥♥ your self.