Power Armor Jetpacks, A Complete Waste

[danconnors]

Of all the disappointments I've seen in this game the power armor jetpack has got to be the biggest. You don't fly; you don't even move any faster. After spending considerable time and resources to build my first (and only) jetpack, I was amazed at how little it actually did.

There were actual jetpacks developed in the 1960's that did far more. I remember a newsreel in a movie once back then. It showed a soldier take off from one bank of the Patomac River, cross the river, land, and the soldier gave a crisp salute to John F. Kennedy, the president.

In this game I'm lucky if my jetpack makes it across a small mudpuddle. Huge disappointment; the devs need to revisit this expensive piece of hardware and see if they can't make some improvements.

Some ideas: Let it fly at treetop level and 30 or 40 miles per hour, burning through fusion cores twice as fast as normal travel. Give it a "leap" capability, reaching 1,000 feet, using up 25% of a fusion core in the leap. Or just remove it as a power armor modification. As it is it's useless.

[BlazeD]

"actual jetpacks developed in the 1960" wouldn't lift powered armor off the ground
I always have a jetpack suit around. i found them to be far more useful than "A Complete Waste"

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by danconnors:

Or just remove it as a power armor modification. As it is it's useless.

Good news - this option is already in the game. Simply don't build any more.

[TVMAN]

"I don't use something so I want it to be removed from the game"

Is that the gist of this thread?

[chris.boney]

have a look for a jetpack pack wedding ring mod which lets you use the jetpack flight ability without power armor.
if you dont like that idea, then its cool.
look for a Reduced Fusion Core Drain mod and also the No Height Limit mod might interest you too.

whether you choose to use mods or not, these different power output settings for jetpack travel are really handy. i made these and been using them ever since i started playing the game and realised just how bad the vanilla jetpack settings are.

now my jetpack output is just part of my GS auto bat file, with other outputs on hotkeys.

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 768
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 175
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 137
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 118
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 115
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 109
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

setgs fJetpackThrustInitial 107
setgs fJetpackTimeToSustained 1200

make each pair of these codes into seperate bat txt files.
eg -

JP1
JP2
JP3
JP4
JP5
JP6
JP7

The console code would then be
Bat jp1
and so on.
it allows for consistant climb and forward travel.
(a dam sight less flea jumpy than the original vanilla settings).

i also reduce world gravity to 0.05, which obv is not for everyone. keeping the gravity at default 1.85 is ok too.
that would be located in your fallout 4 ini under the havok heading.

edit -
try using the sprint button in between blasts of jet power.

[danconnors]

Power Armor suits were also developed in the 1960's. They were called "man amplifiers". Several of these suits are used in the movie "Aliens" (Sigourny Weaver). The original power armor suit, as developed by Robert Heinlien in the book "Starship Troopers" same decade, had the capability to fly, but it was considered a dangerous alternative by the mobile infantry that used it. In flight you became much more vulnerable to enemy fire.

Designs were made to mount a power armored soldier on a flyer platform. He could easily have traversed the entire area of the Commonwealth, landed, done his job, then returned to base on the same platform. All this is far in advance of the clunky, noisy power armor available in this game.

Of course during the 1960's we could fly men to the moon and back, a capability we lost in the early 1970's when the Saturn 5 production line was deactivated and scrapped. Now, over 40 years later, the US can't even put a man into low Earth orbit.

We've come a long way downhill.

[DaddyJokee]

Actually, you're using it wrong. If you attach explosive vents to your leg armors, and have the pain train perk maxed out, the jetpack becomes an offensive weapon.

[danconnors]

I was kind of hoping to use it for fast travel mode. Vertibirds are only available if you join the BOS, which I don't like doing, or The Institutees teleporter. I've never joined the Institute, which I consider a monstrous entity. A jetpack that worked like it should would give the Railroad and Minutemen a fast travel substitute.

[DaddyJokee]

Originally posted by danconnors:

I was kind of hoping to use it for fast travel mode. Vertibirds are only available if you join the BOS, which I don't like doing, or The Institutees teleporter. I've never joined the Institute, which I consider a monstrous entity. A jetpack that worked like it should would give the Railroad and Minutemen a fast travel substitute.

Ye, no, it's not very good for that. Still though, if you use it for combat, it's pretty powerful. I havent tried it in survival though. Diving head first into combat in survival can be...well...deadly at any level.

[Bobby]

Originally posted by .:MrJOkEE:.:

Actually, you're using it wrong. If you attach explosive vents to your leg armors, and have the pain train perk maxed out, the jetpack becomes an offensive weapon.

^^ That's what it's for. It's like jumping off a building and creating slpash-damage.

[chris.boney]

Originally posted by zoo:

Originally posted by .:MrJOkEE:.:

Actually, you're using it wrong. If you attach explosive vents to your leg armors, and have the pain train perk maxed out, the jetpack becomes an offensive weapon.

^^ That's what it's for. It's like jumping off a building and creating slpash-damage.

mines for flying to the deathstar moon.

(or traveling above the cities ect. flying with the predwyn formation when you meet it for the first time,, epic).