Far Harbor Ending *SPOILERS*

[Ronnie Rooney]

So im not happy with the ending off far harbor..
I choose peace between all the factions.
But dima is kinda evil.
I had nick valentine with me the whole trip so i discoverd more things.
But i dont want to kill dima for nick because nick will be sad atfirst.
How ever dima is just like the institute.
He replaces people with synths.
See here is the thing.
I dont know what to pick.
I dont want the other synts to die.
Just dima.
And i dont really care about the children off atom because in the commenweatlth those people are just the most anoying things ever.
And mabey not in this DLC but still.
I just want to get the girl home to her parents.
But i dont want acaida to be destroyed just dima...
And the children of atom...
IS there anyway to do this?
Or atleast something close?
Because i dont want to replace the leaders with synts....

[Yhwach]

You can make it so DiMa is brought to justice and arcadia stays safe, but you'll have to:

- Help Far Harbor with every single one of their side quests
- Pass a Speech Check to convince DiMa that he has to be brought to justice

The Children of Atom can be destroyed at any time as long as you have the proper instruments

[Ronnie Rooney]

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

You can make it so DiMa is brought to justice and arcadia stays safe, but you'll have to:

- Help Far Harbor with every single one of their side quests
- Pass a Speech Check to convince DiMa that he has to be brought to justice

The Children of Atom can be destroyed at any time as long as you have the proper instruments

Oh ok thanks man.
I just had my own idea to bring the girl home first.
Then tell the brotherhood about acaida...
Thanks anyway im gonna do that real quick!

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by ZerozNL:

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

You can make it so DiMa is brought to justice and arcadia stays safe, but you'll have to:

- Help Far Harbor with every single one of their side quests
- Pass a Speech Check to convince DiMa that he has to be brought to justice

The Children of Atom can be destroyed at any time as long as you have the proper instruments

Oh ok thanks man.
I just had my own idea to bring the girl home first.
Then tell the brotherhood about acaida...
Thanks anyway im gonna do that real quick!

You can't bring her home, she wants to see what happens towards the end, meaning once you bring DiMa to justice is when she'll go home.

[craigsters]

If you bring DiMa to justice, the Harbormen well attack Acadia, I took DiMa to Far Harbor and it's Harbormen and I had enough charisma to pass all speech challenges and I stopped my game and fell back to before confronting DiMa and went the peaceful ending, keeping DiMa alive

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by craigsters:

If you bring DiMa to justice, the Harbormen well attack Acadia, I took DiMa to Far Harbor and it's Harbormen and I had enough charisma to pass all speech challenges and I stopped my game and fell back to before confronting DiMa and went the peaceful ending, keeping DiMa alive

Wrong for the first part.
They won't attack them if you do every single side quest for Far Harbor, afterwards, they'll take your side instead of Captain Avery's asshat sidekick.

DiMa Dead
Arcadia Safe
Far Harbor Safe
You can then take out any of them any time you want.

[Ronnie Rooney]

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

Originally posted by ZerozNL:

Oh ok thanks man.
I just had my own idea to bring the girl home first.
Then tell the brotherhood about acaida...
Thanks anyway im gonna do that real quick!

You can't bring her home, she wants to see what happens towards the end, meaning once you bring DiMa to justice is when she'll go home.

Oh... Well then... I'll let the girl die

[Ronnie Rooney]

Originally posted by craigsters:

If you bring DiMa to justice, the Harbormen well attack Acadia, I took DiMa to Far Harbor and it's Harbormen and I had enough charisma to pass all speech challenges and I stopped my game and fell back to before confronting DiMa and went the peaceful ending, keeping DiMa alive

Yea i had that the first time to... But that wont work

[Panda-Bishop]

Originally posted by ZerozNL:

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

You can't bring her home, she wants to see what happens towards the end, meaning once you bring DiMa to justice is when she'll go home.

Oh... Well then... I'll let the girl die

Actually, it's possible to get her home before the BoS attacks.

You have to agree to keep DiMA's secret (because turning him in will fail the BoS quest), but can convince him to destroy the CoA (and presumably Far Harbor as well, but I didn't try that). Once you've turned in the keys and/or destroyed the other factions, that quest line will finish (without failing the BoS quest) and Kasumi will be ready to head home.

Once she's back home you can call in the BoS.

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by Bishop:

Originally posted by ZerozNL:

Oh... Well then... I'll let the girl die

Actually, it's possible to get her home before the BoS attacks.

You have to agree to keep DiMA's secret (because turning him in will fail the BoS quest), but can convince him to destroy the CoA (and presumably Far Harbor as well, but I didn't try that). Once you've turned in the keys and/or destroyed the other factions, that quest line will finish (without failing the BoS quest) and Kasumi will be ready to head home.

Once she's back home you can call in the BoS.

I tried that once and the BoS mission wasn't available afterwards, same went for the institute mission but i think it's supposed to fail afterwards.

[Panda-Bishop]

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

Originally posted by Bishop:

Actually, it's possible to get her home before the BoS attacks.

You have to agree to keep DiMA's secret (because turning him in will fail the BoS quest), but can convince him to destroy the CoA (and presumably Far Harbor as well, but I didn't try that). Once you've turned in the keys and/or destroyed the other factions, that quest line will finish (without failing the BoS quest) and Kasumi will be ready to head home.

Once she's back home you can call in the BoS.

I tried that once and the BoS mission wasn't available afterwards, same went for the institute mission but i think it's supposed to fail afterwards.

Did you advance the BoS/Institute quest line all the way up to when they're waiting for your order to attack before doing the above? I was able to get Kasumi back home safely before going all Brutus on DiMA by returning with the Institute in tow.

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by Bishop:

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

I tried that once and the BoS mission wasn't available afterwards, same went for the institute mission but i think it's supposed to fail afterwards.

Did you advance the BoS/Institute quest line all the way up to when they're waiting for your order to attack before doing the above? I was able to get Kasumi back home safely before going all Brutus on DiMA by returning with the Institute in tow.

I did, they were ready to attack and i did the quest to get her home and they dissapeared from the game whilst the quest completed itself.

[Panda-Bishop]

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

Originally posted by Bishop:

Did you advance the BoS/Institute quest line all the way up to when they're waiting for your order to attack before doing the above? I was able to get Kasumi back home safely before going all Brutus on DiMA by returning with the Institute in tow.

I did, they were ready to attack and i did the quest to get her home and they dissapeared from the game whilst the quest completed itself.

Weird, now I'm going to have to try that again in my next playthrough to see if it's your game that bugged out and denied you that progress, or my game that bugged out and allowed me to do it.

[BizarreMan]

Dima is definitely evil, but in the end. Covering up his actions is the best for the people of the Island.

Everybody lives. Everybody gets along. Peace and Prosperity come to Far Harbor. You can change the course of the island forever by making one small moral sacrifice.

It's the ending you can't get with the main game.

[mfree]

Kept Dima's secret. Replaced Tektus. Everyone's happy, Kasumi went home, no institute to call, and I'm not telling BoS. A round on the house for everyone.

Dima is *so* not the same as the institute...

Dima: synth-swaps group leaders when it's obvious that there's little alternative to that group destroying Acadia or another group... in my game, a total of two times, with deep guilt/shame. Faraday, actually, seems a lot more sociopathic about it, but is a devoted 'follower' and should be harmless under a benevolent thumb.

Institute:
"Hey, we need to test this modified gourd on the surface somewhere, any ideas?"
"Yeah, there's this farm that's building on a pile of 200 year old feces, great fertilizer. Owner's a bit of a drunk, apparently."
"That's great, get a synth ready and fetch him, we'll have him 'go sober' after a long bender as a back story and torture the bloody hell out of the real one to fill in all the gaps/details. Get started."
"What about after?"
"Same as every other time, kill everyone, destroy all the evidence, hide the bodies, etc.etc. Why do you always ask that? It's not like we trained all these coursers to trim the trees in the atrium..."

Great huge differences.

Dima after synth-swapping: Oh, what have I done, I can't stand myself, please take the memory away...

Institute after synth swapping: Oh, what have I done, I've got filthy commoner blood on my white lab coat... synth, take this to the laundry and don't bring it back until you can't detect any stains. Bring me stains and I'll wipe you for plumbing duty, got it?

[Panda-Bishop]

Originally posted by mfree:

Dima after synth-swapping: Oh, what have I done, I can't stand myself, please take the memory away...

Institute after synth swapping: Oh, what have I done, I've got filthy commoner blood on my white lab coat... synth, take this to the laundry and don't bring it back until you can't detect any stains. Bring me stains and I'll wipe you for plumbing duty, got it?

Honestly, I think that actually makes DiMA worse. With the Institute you have the possibility of people growing a conscience (like how Virgil and Liam Bennit did, or how Madison Li possesses but can't exercise because Shaun keeps her in the dark, or how Isaac Karlin displays the burning embers of), but with DiMA?

Ctrl-X, Ctrl-V, never have to struggle with guilt ever again, doomed to repeat the past as long as he can conveniently and cleanly forget at the flick of a switch, with nobody to ever question or correct him because he keeps it a secret from everyone.