Anyone have experience of the minutemen ending + the other faction relations (spoilers)

[Woseph]

Hi there,

Just wondering if anyone has experience of how the dlc/post game is if you side with the minutemen but have good relations with BOS and Railroad? I've seen vids where all factions are happy with you and you can continue to go about your business.

It seems off somehow though as sure I can see the minutemen and railroad getting along to an extent but the brotherhood and railroad have very different views on the existance of synths

Thanks

[Tim Timsen]

Yes.

[ChemicalBacon]

引用自 LardyFatLips：

Hi there,

Just wondering if anyone has experience of how the dlc/post game is if you side with the minutemen but have good relations with BOS and Railroad? I've seen vids where all factions are happy with you and you can continue to go about your business.

It seems off somehow though as sure I can see the minutemen and railroad getting along to an extent but the brotherhood and railroad have very different views on the existance of synths

Thanks

The miniutemen are the closest to the neutral path you will get.
All factions but the institute survive but the final fight is much harder (because your allies die in 1-2 hits, no joke). You continue and play afterwards with the railroad and bortherhood still about.

IMHO, its a really terrible ending becausre you also need to outrightly say "no" to father as soon as he says "join us", otehrwise it won't activate.
Which means you miss out on the institute quests and X6-88

Its basically like doing the hoover dam fight in NV but passing up on all the faction help you can get.
It cuts the game time down drasically but allows you to preserve most of the characters

[Woseph]

Hmm may go Railroad then as quite like synths but can still do institute quests that way (to an extent)

[Brandybuck]

I got the "peace" ending. Not that hard to do. Just don't attack other factions! Seriously, I think the key to it is to enter the Institute from the Minuteman side, then immediately get banned after Institutionalized. If you stay with the Institute too long you risk passing an unmarked point-of-no-return.

I think most people miss it because those most likely to start murdering Institute folk are those most likely to be uninterested in a peace option. But just go knock off Ayo right after finishing Institutionalized (meet all the directors), escape the angry hordes, and then finish with the Minutemen.

[Woseph]

Hmm quite interested in doing this but don't the minutemen turn on the brotherhood after you finish with them? Preston wants to blow them up etc?

[ChemicalBacon]

引用自 LardyFatLips：

Hmm quite interested in doing this but don't the minutemen turn on the brotherhood after you finish with them? Preston wants to blow them up etc?

No, you just leave them alone and go back to business as normal

[Woseph]

Does that quest still trigger if you speak to him/you ignore it? Or is there a genuine peace between them?

[HoroSaga]

引用自 LardyFatLips：

Does that quest still trigger if you speak to him/you ignore it? Or is there a genuine peace between them?

I believe that PAM, one of the quest-givers over in the Railroad HQ, will still want you to start a quest to destroy the Brotherhood even after the main quest has ended - but you can avoid that by just not talking to her anymore. I've also seen some reports that certain faction NPCs, such as Maxson, will no longer talk to you once you've finished the game in that way.

It's definitely a little fiddly, though. Hard to say if the developers actually intended for there to be an ending where three of the four factions survive.

[Rizzly]

You cannot take on the institute without BOS being your enemy, advancing Defend The Castle will fail Mass Fusion and Ad Victoriam... or what's the trick here?

PS: Ad Victoriam.

[Woseph]

I think it depends on what quests you do and in which order. Theres a few vids about, for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUFEeYdQnVc etc

[The_Vernster]

How I go about it is do all the faction quests until Mass Fusion/Spoils of War.

Spoils of War is the one you wanna go for, otherwise you're gonna have the BoS on you. Doing this will cause you to fail the Railroad questline due to you having to be an agent undercover but then Desdemona will prompt you to use the Minutemen as a solution.

After which its pretty much doing Minutemen quests until you are strong enough to get the Defend the Castle quest and then you can proceed as per normal.

The Railroad does get a bit confused with this conclusion though, I had PAM give me quests to destroy "remnant BoS" and Desdemona telling me Glory is dead even tho shes right there next to her.

Still its peace between all factions and you can do their radiant quests or any side quests you never finished with them.

I do reccomend you finish their main quests like the BoS quest Blind Betrayal first otherwise Danse will be unable to have max affinity with you.

引用自 Rizzly：

You cannot take on the institute without BOS being your enemy, advancing Defend The Castle will fail Mass Fusion and Ad Victoriam... or what's the trick here?

PS: Ad Victoriam.

Failing Mass Fusion will not make the Brotherhood your enemy, failing Spoils of War will tho.

[Gon]

引用自 HoroSaga：

I've also seen some reports that certain faction NPCs, such as Maxson, will no longer talk to you once you've finished the game in that way.

Maxson has a little temper tantrum about how you stole his fight away, then stops talking to you in order to focus on sulking. Desdemona doesn't talk at all, except to offer a few quests to hunt down raiders, after which she shuts up entirely. PAM gives you quests to kill BoS patrols, which you can do without affecting your reputation with the BoS, so it's a good source of Power Armour if you are thusly inclined.

[The_Vernster]

引用自 Gon：

引用自 HoroSaga：

I've also seen some reports that certain faction NPCs, such as Maxson, will no longer talk to you once you've finished the game in that way.

Maxson has a little temper tantrum about how you stole his fight away, then stops talking to you in order to focus on sulking. Desdemona doesn't talk at all, except to offer a few quests to hunt down raiders, after which she shuts up entirely. PAM gives you quests to kill BoS patrols, which you can do without affecting your reputation with the BoS, so it's a good source of Power Armour if you are thusly inclined.

Well with some console commands you can see that the BoS actually would be happy if you do the Minutemen ending, but I guess Bethesda thought it be a little ridiculous to give you all the goodies for doing the Minutemen ending. Being the General of the Minutemen and the Sentinel of the Brotherhood is just kinda OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTvJHimXns0

[mfree]

You know, when PAM talls you there's a vertibird that needs taking out, you can say no...

[Imanoldcoot]

引用自 Gon：

引用自 HoroSaga：

I've also seen some reports that certain faction NPCs, such as Maxson, will no longer talk to you once you've finished the game in that way.

Maxson has a little temper tantrum about how you stole his fight away, then stops talking to you in order to focus on sulking. Desdemona doesn't talk at all, except to offer a few quests to hunt down raiders, after which she shuts up entirely. PAM gives you quests to kill BoS patrols, which you can do without affecting your reputation with the BoS, so it's a good source of Power Armour if you are thusly inclined.

I am at th epoint now where he just sulks...wonder if I can use a sandman kill and get rid of him without making everyone mad.