The pipboy flashlight affect your stealth detection?

[Amplifier]

Is it just me or does the pipboy flashlight have absolutely no effect on enemies detecting you while sneaking?

as a stealth build, this kinda bothers me. The pipboy light is especially bright it lights up an entire room yet the enemy right in front of my face will still be in a CAUTIONED or HIDDEN state.

[ThePlagued]

"Note that your Pip-boy's light is far from a spotlight in terms of brightness, but it DOES affect stealth"

[Zulu]

Yea it can be quite significant most of the time, even if you have maxed stealth.

[Amplifier]

I have a hard time being convinced by that. I mean really, I can shine my light at an enemy facing me a distance away and yet they cant detect me.

[Wolförian Garmdomia]

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

I have a hard time being convinced by that. I mean really, I can shine my light at an enemy facing me a distance away and yet they cant detect me.

Then the light must be...
Inconsequential.

[Zulu]

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

I have a hard time being convinced by that. I mean really, I can shine my light at an enemy facing me a distance away and yet they cant detect me.

How close? And what is your agililty and sneak skill at?

[Vinnie Mack]

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

I have a hard time being convinced by that. I mean really, I can shine my light at an enemy facing me a distance away and yet they cant detect me.

think of total darkness. Not the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ darkness the game gives us. Real total darkness. Like you are in a giant auditorium or stadium with the lights out, and no lights seeping in. Darkness that you slam into. Suddenly, someone flicks a match at the opposite end of the stadium. Are you going to see that match? Probably. So I don't think it is unrealistic.

does the game penalize us for using it? It has in every one of these fallouts I have played. It even gives you the warning on the load screen. I am playing on the PS4 and the load screens are quite long so I tend to read the little blurbs while waiting. With this said, I think it also depends on the type of creature. Mindless animals, or ghouls, seem to be less aware of the light than the human types. This may be wrong, but it is the impression I have gotten.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by ThePlagued:

"Note that your Pip-boy's light is far from a spotlight in terms of brightness, but it DOES affect stealth"

I've seen that in the loading screen before and y'know, after over 100 hours of sneaking, I can confirm that is absolutely BS.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by Vinnie Mack:

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

I have a hard time being convinced by that. I mean really, I can shine my light at an enemy facing me a distance away and yet they cant detect me.

think of total darkness. Not the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ darkness the game gives us. Real total darkness. Like you are in a giant auditorium or stadium with the lights out, and no lights seeping in. Darkness that you slam into. Suddenly, someone flicks a match at the opposite end of the stadium. Are you going to see that match? Probably. So I don't think it is unrealistic.

does the game penalize us for using it? It has in every one of these fallouts I have played. It even gives you the warning on the load screen. I am playing on the PS4 and the load screens are quite long so I tend to read the little blurbs while waiting. With this said, I think it also depends on the type of creature. Mindless animals, or ghouls, seem to be less aware of the light than the human types. This may be wrong, but it is the impression I have gotten.

Imagine being in a dark hallway. And just a few meters or so right in front of your face, a super bright light coming from a pipboy is turned out and lights up the entire hallway like its morning while nearly blinding you.
You still can't see anything wrong here? Because that's exactly how it's like trying to sneak with light on in this game.

Seriously, does anyone here even sneak? Or do people just turn off their light, blindly believing the crap message shown in the loading screen?
I use darker nights mod plus darker interiors so I always have my pipboy light on and its very evident.


And no, it doest matter AT ALL. Creatures or humans, light literally has no effect on them. I've shone my pipboy light straight at raiders sitting at a diner (im right next to their ass) and they act like the light is non-existent.
Go ahead and try it yourself, with high agility of course. The only thing that mostly affects detection is sound. VIsibility factor is near negligent, it's laughable.

[Zombified]

Do you have any of the weather or darkness mods? I know they edit the vanilla stealth detection so maybe affects that.
I tested it hding in a dark corner in a room with raiders. (I have no mods atm)
Without the pipboy light I was hidden totally even when I moved a little.
With the light I moved a bit and the raiders reacted / searched.
So I guess either mods are affecting it OR we all have different experiences with the stealth mechanic.
Wouldn't surprise me if its the latter, my mums game has all sorts of things happen that Ive never seen/experieced.

[Xyzzy]

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

Is it just me or does the pipboy flashlight have absolutely no effect on enemies detecting you while sneaking?

as a stealth build, this kinda bothers me. The pipboy light is especially bright it lights up an entire room yet the enemy right in front of my face will still be in a CAUTIONED or HIDDEN state.

i been saying about this 4 ages, no effect on or off for me, others say it does, btw 3,000 hours no effect.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Zombified!:

I tested it hding in a dark corner in a room with raiders. (I have no mods atm)
Without the pipboy light I was hidden totally even when I moved a little.
With the light I moved a bit and the raiders reacted / searched.

I similarly tested it by standing in the darkness a short distance from some nonhostile synths. I likewise use no mods.

*Without the pipboy light, the Hidden indicator wobbled a bit up and down depending on which way they were looking, but never switched to Detected.
*With the light, the indicator was more contracted, and occasionally switched to Detected.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by Xyzzy:

Originally posted by lnconsequentiaI:

Is it just me or does the pipboy flashlight have absolutely no effect on enemies detecting you while sneaking?

as a stealth build, this kinda bothers me. The pipboy light is especially bright it lights up an entire room yet the enemy right in front of my face will still be in a CAUTIONED or HIDDEN state.

i been saying about this 4 ages, no effect on or off for me, others say it does, btw 3,000 hours no effect.

Those who say it does probably, rarely, do sneak (and with light on). I've currently toned down my pipboy light so it looks at least more realistic. The vanilla pipboy lighting is ridiculous enough as it is
.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by Zombified!:

Do you have any of the weather or darkness mods? I know they edit the vanilla stealth detection so maybe affects that.
I tested it hding in a dark corner in a room with raiders. (I have no mods atm)
Without the pipboy light I was hidden totally even when I moved a little.
With the light I moved a bit and the raiders reacted / searched.
So I guess either mods are affecting it OR we all have different experiences with the stealth mechanic.
Wouldn't surprise me if its the latter, my mums game has all sorts of things happen that Ive never seen/experieced.

My guess is the light only affects the overall sneak detection (which would mean just noise made by moving), not actual scope of visiblity of the enemies. And even if it affected, it has to be minimal. What's your agility at btw?

[Xyzzy]

always been vanilla no cons. mods, nevef had any effect on or off, been all different sneak levs etc.. it's a myth code

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Xyzzy:

always been vanilla no cons. mods, nevef had any effect on or off, been all different sneak levs etc.. it's a myth code

It has always worked for me, and the testing I just did before confirms it as working exactly the way I've seen it before.

For what it's worth, I'm playing with the Sneak perk at rank 3.