I couldn't ask for a better gun...

[Rizzly]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=768421860

[ice]

Originally posted by jrr101:

Two shot gattling laser

worthless

[Ruin]

Originally posted by jrr101:

Doesnt wxplosive suck on weapons without full auto?

Or at least semi-auto, but pretty much, yeah...

Slow rate of fire weapons are better off with either the Instigator's, or 2 Shot Legendary effect, as I understand it...

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by Ruin:

Originally posted by jrr101:

Doesnt wxplosive suck on weapons without full auto?

Or at least semi-auto, but pretty much, yeah...

Slow rate of fire weapons are better off with either the Instigator's, or 2 Shot Legendary effect, as I understand it...

Yeah, that's why I said Admiral's Friend would be my preference since it has Instigator's effect.

Edit: I didn't realize that was the name for double damage to full health targets. Thanks.

[Von Faustien]

Originally posted by Ozelot:

Originally posted by jrr101:

Two shot gattling laser

worthless

Tell that to every thing in the game that melts when i aim in there genral direction

[Rizzly]

Huge difference between admiral's friend and explosive prefix...The way it synergizes with pellet weapons I see it better by a mile

Admiral's friend is way below any heavy gun, even the minigun if you don't count the ammo efficiency. Its reload is too slow and no means to increase the clip size (like Broadsider)

[Corporal Cow]

I highly suggest downloading Legendary Overhaul, it changes a lot of the legendary effects and you can get some pretty dope weapons.

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by Rizzly:

Huge difference between admiral's friend and explosive prefix...The way it synergizes with pellet weapons I see it better by a mile

Admiral's friend is way below any heavy gun, even the minigun if you don't count the ammo efficiency. Its reload is too slow and no means to increase the clip size (like Broadsider)

Yeah, I was just comparing it to the OP's Explosive Harpoon Gun and saying I prefered the Admiral's Friend because double damage is better than the explosive modifier on that gun.

[Rizzly]

Originally posted by casualsailor:

Yeah, I was just comparing it to the OP's Explosive Harpoon Gun and saying I prefered the Admiral's Friend because double damage is better than the explosive modifier on that gun.

It's only better if you use the single harpoon mod :) Barbed/Standard

[ice]

Originally posted by jrr101:

Originally posted by Ozelot:

worthless

Tell that to every thing in the game that melts when i aim in there genral direction

that happens no matter what you use when you play on very easy

[Someguyinhere]

Originally posted by Ozelot:

Originally posted by jrr101:

Tell that to every thing in the game that melts when i aim in there genral direction

that happens no matter what you use when you play on very easy

This game is very easy on Survival. Let's not sit here and jerk ourselves for playing on a certain difficulty like this is Dark Souls. "I beat the Kellog boss with a broken NES controller while blindfolded, one hand tied behind my back while an ugly crone beat my fanny with a wooden pizza paddle and called me anti-semetic names." We don't need that community here.

[Lifeisagame]

just watch out when you use this sort of Weapons if something near you dont want/need to kill - This effect goes thru walls...

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by Rizzly:

Originally posted by casualsailor:

Yeah, I was just comparing it to the OP's Explosive Harpoon Gun and saying I prefered the Admiral's Friend because double damage is better than the explosive modifier on that gun.

It's only better if you use the single harpoon mod :) Barbed/Standard

I don't use mods like that. But it will one shot kill most enemies. And if it doesn't then double damage on the first shot is still better than an extra 15 on each shot until you get to an enemy that requires more than 6 shots to kill.

[WarMachine]

Yes, you could ask for a better harpoon gun.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=740319799

[Doombringer]

Originally posted by Rizzly:

a single flechette does 69 damage

Actually it does more than you think ;)
Heavy Gunner has x2 explosive damage as well as x2 weapon damage (unlike other weapon type perks)
Lone Survivor 3 also has a hidden x1.25 explosive damage mod (in addition to the normal damage mod)
With demolitions 4, explosive bobblehead, and bloody mess 3:
15*2*2*2*1.15*1.15 = 158.7 explosive damage per flechette (normal mode vs 0 armor)
that*1.25*1.25 with lone survivor 3 and no companion (or dogmeat) = 247.96875 damage

Each shot fires 7 flechettes, can recover multiple harpoons for everyone you fire too, so no ammo problems :)
Too bad about the rate of fire though :/

Originally posted by WarMachine:

Yes, you could ask for a better harpoon gun.

lol explosive is so much better than that...
The explosives do 1110.9 extra damage, even if you miss ;)
(1735.8 extra with lone survivor 3)

[Rizzly]

Originally posted by casualsailor:

Originally posted by Rizzly:

It's only better if you use the single harpoon mod :) Barbed/Standard

I don't use mods like that. But it will one shot kill most enemies. And if it doesn't then double damage on the first shot is still better than an extra 15 on each shot until you get to an enemy that requires more than 6 shots to kill.

what you mean with "mods like that"? it's a workbench mod for the gun

that 15 is multiplied by all flechettes count and affected by explosive perk and its bobblehead....that's what I'm trying to say. It's not to be undervalued like many do.

Originally posted by WarMachine:

Yes, you could ask for a better harpoon gun.

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Not even close.


@Doombringer: I don't use lone wanderer but your math is correct as well.