Deliverer removed from game????

[FreelancerFL]

Hey guys, so a few days ago I noticed the Deliverer you get from the railroad quest line was bugged. I couldn't get it legit, couldn't add through console, just ctd every time. I found I had four mods total that hit the item specifically and deactivated each one at a time correctly.
When that didn't work I removed all four. deleted the files and ran a game cache integrity scan, everything was good no problems, checked my loot order and everything was good.
I ran the game again, tried adding to console but ctd again.

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Finally went to consol and looked up the item ID to verify it was right on the wiki and LOW AND BEHOLD I FIGURED OUT WHY I'M GETTING THE CTD

The item, is no longer registered as a weapon, it's flagged as an armor.
I added through console, equiped it, and it's a cosmetic now.
I don't know how or why but that's what happened.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW TO FIX THIS BECAUSE I SURE DON'T.

[FreelancerFL]

http://imgur.com/a/AKt7f

Screen shot here

[tulle040657]

you have a mod at position 48 that changes the weapon mods for it and a mod at c5 that makes it armor

[tulle040657]

This is a base game weapon all ids should start with 00

[Fenris]

I just got it yesterday actually. Not sure if that was actually helpful or not. Didn't try it in combat, just shot it a few times then hung it on a wall since I have no pistol perks yet.

[mfree]

At position C5? The one hundred and ninety-seventh mod? Jesus.

The base ID is dc8e7. Try spawning that one instead; it's probably in the retrieved list, but off the top of the screen.

197'th mod, jeez...

[Beautiful Ham Sandwich]

When you have that many mods you should automatically assume your mods are at fault, because chances are they usually will be the perpetrator of many issues

[FreelancerFL]

Originally posted by mfree:

At position C5? The one hundred and ninety-seventh mod? Jesus.

The base ID is dc8e7. Try spawning that one instead; it's probably in the retrieved list, but off the top of the screen.

197'th mod, jeez...

I did, every time I got ctd, the actual game code item doesn't exist.

and I max my load order out, it's at 253 active with 278 total

[FreelancerFL]

Originally posted by Fenris:

I just got it yesterday actually. Not sure if that was actually helpful or not. Didn't try it in combat, just shot it a few times then hung it on a wall since I have no pistol perks yet.

The pistol is probably best in game, vanilla wise for a stealth based build, but I'm using unique unique so it changes the guns special.

[FreelancerFL]

Originally posted by tulle040657:

This is a base game weapon all ids should start with 00

That's the issue, the weapon isn't in the list, the mods are, and the "armor" is as well, it's equipable but it's not a usable weapon.

[FreelancerFL]

Originally posted by tulle040657:

you have a mod at position 48 that changes the weapon mods for it and a mod at c5 that makes it armor

Any ideas which it could be?
I can post my loot order list. Give me a sec.

[FreelancerFL]

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[tulle040657]

Originally posted by FreelancerFL:

Originally posted by tulle040657:

you have a mod at position 48 that changes the weapon mods for it and a mod at c5 that makes it armor

Any ideas which it could be?
I can post my loot order list. Give me a sec.

48 is 4x16+8 or 72nd mod in yout list
c5 is 12x16+5 or 197th mod in your list

you can just look in NMM it has the ids next to the mod

[tulle040657]

So you are saying if you type

help Deliverer 4 weap

in the console you do not get and entry for it as id 000dc8e7

[Tyberis]

.....why.....just why.......

And I want to streamline mine below 20 mods.

[FreelancerFL]

Originally posted by tulle040657:

So you are saying if you type

help Deliverer 4 weap

in the console you do not get and entry for it as id 000dc8e7

going to check now