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rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:43am
Don't understand my Buffout crash log?
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Chaosium Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:58am 
"nvwgf2umx.dll", I didn't even need to read further down, that's the error I kept getting to the point that I didn't want to play any longer

TLDR: graphics drivers on Nvidia cards past a specific version cause random crashes no matter what you do, it's just a thing that happened and you won't count on either side to fix that

Solution: roll back to version 442.92, it's the last stable version that works with Fallout 4
Last edited by Chaosium; Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:58am
Originally posted by rmfranco:
https://pastebin.com/gTk8Kz7g
nvwgf2umx.dll is a nvidia driver, install the latest.

[Compatibility] F4EE: false > set it to true.

[Fixes]
ActorIsHostileToActor: true
CellInit: true
EncounterZoneReset: true
GreyMovies: true
MagicEffectApplyEvent: true
MovementPlanner: true
PackageAllocateLocation: true
SafeExit: true
UnalignedLoad: true
UtilityShader: true

Above are possible fixes. You have a problem with a nvidia driver, which would not impact a characters or npc path's or a cell. So it needs to be 1 out of 3 fixes.

GreyMovies
MagicEffectApplyEvent
UtilityShader

However, when you go back to F4EE: false, and you go donw to the driver DLL section then you notice the driver F4EE is not present in the list. So going back up to Fixes (MagicEffectApplyEvent), let me guess you where doing some magic or effect stuff when in 3D person mode.
Last edited by isomorphic_projection; Jul 21, 2022 @ 7:02am
rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by isomorphic_projection:
Originally posted by rmfranco:
https://pastebin.com/gTk8Kz7g
I'll have to look into the driver.

nvwgf2umx.dll is a nvidia driver, install the latest.

[Compatibility] F4EE: false > set it to true.
Is this an in game setting, or a file somewhere?

[Fixes]
ActorIsHostileToActor: true
CellInit: true
EncounterZoneReset: true
GreyMovies: true
MagicEffectApplyEvent: true
MovementPlanner: true
PackageAllocateLocation: true
SafeExit: true
UnalignedLoad: true
UtilityShader: true

Above are possible fixes. You have a problem with a nvidia driver, which would not impact a characters or npc path's or a cell. So it needs to be 1 out of 3 fixes.

GreyMovies
MagicEffectApplyEvent
UtilityShader

However, when you go back to F4EE: false, and you go donw to the driver DLL section then you notice the driver F4EE is not present in the list. So going back up to Fixes (MagicEffectApplyEvent), let me guess you where doing some magic or effect stuff when in 3D person mode.
When it crashed? No, as far as I recall, I was walking through Concord, in my first few quests. I prefer 1st person.
Originally posted by rmfranco:
https://pastebin.com/gTk8Kz7g
[Compatibility] F4EE: false > set it to true.
Is this an in game setting, or a file somewhere?

You can find it in an xml file, however it will go back to false again. If you would have googled, you would have found that you are missing also 1 MOD, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12631/?tab=description&topic_id=7030856

Originally posted by rmfranco:
When it crashed? No, as far as I recall, I was walking through Concord, in my first few quests. I prefer 1st person.

Now this is familiar to me. 2 questions.

A do you have weapon debris on.
B do you use 2 mod's, 1 adjust laser fire, 1 adjust's your scope. And did you scope, Preston when he fired his rifle. It's one of these 2.

When someone ask a specific question like this, i always treat it as a crime scene.
You get results faster, i look at the data, and then start asking questions about location, what where you doing, and what was the rest doing.
Last edited by isomorphic_projection; Jul 21, 2022 @ 9:34am
rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by isomorphic_projection:
Originally posted by rmfranco:
https://pastebin.com/gTk8Kz7g
I added that mod, and will New game when I have the chance. I've added a few mods, and found a few that can replace ones I currently have.

A do you have weapon debris on.
Uh... I don't know, whatever the default is. I last played a while ago, and only played again because my Skyrim is having crashes, and I was board of troubleshooting it.

B do you use 2 mod's, 1 adjust laser fire, 1 adjust's your scope. And did you scope, Preston when he fired his rifle. It's one of these 2.
IDK bout laser fire? I couldn't see Preston from where i was, I think he was a few blocks over? I'd crashed in front of the first few homes as you enter Concord, near where you first can encounter those flys.


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Skyrim has crashes to, so back to the GPU a nvidia driver. Skyrim does not have weapon debris. But there's more going on in your fallout 4 buffout report.

What are your computer specs.
Left top corner > help > system information.
rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 11:55am 
Skyrim, It works, it just is crashing from a mod. I've narrowed it down to maybe 1 of a dozen, but am just sick of troubleshooting it, so I've been playing other games for the past week or two.

Also, was this the mod mentioned:
Weapon Debris Crash Fix - Weapon Debris Crash Fix Bug Fixes 7/21/2022 2:52:49 PM 7/21/2022 2:47:23 PM 194684 1.2 / 1.2 Antonix35

I just installed it. Along with a few others that apparently aren't fully compatible with Buffout. By doing so, From the mods I replaced and added, I actually have 5 plugins less now.



Computer Information:
Manufacturer: LENOVO
Model: 81SY
Form Factor: Laptop
No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x9e
CPU Stepping: 0xa
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 2592 Mhz
12 logical processors
6 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Supported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: Citrix Indirect Display Adapter
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 12.40.44.247
DirectX Driver Version: 30.0.15.1123
Driver Date: 1 23 2019
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x1f91
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 13.54" x 7.64" (15.51" diag)
34.4cm x 19.4cm (39.4cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
Primary VRAM: 4095 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: Headphones (Bose AE2 SoundLink

Memory:
RAM: 8111 MB

VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: Undetermined
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 4860240 MB
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 95868 MB
OS Install Date: Aug 01 2020
Game Controller: None detected
MAC Address hash: 2a2e71657aaaf7c57a2036fb1449b2976ab879af

Storage:
Disk serial number hash: f9f30fcd
Number of SSDs: 1
SSD sizes: 4096G
Number of HDDs: 1
HDD sizes: 1000G
Last edited by rmfranco; Jul 21, 2022 @ 12:35pm
It's not your load order, however it will cause problems.
But with so many mods and all, running. Concord itself all the action happening at the time. I think it's to much for just 4gb of vram with 8gb of normal ram. It's the main cause of your problem.
rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:13pm 
I swapped in ECO mod, and after I got everything installed, I ran the Workbench Patcher.
I got this when It was done:

You can close this application now. (here I click to X out)
[05:48] Saving: ECO workbench file patch.esp
[05:48] Error saving ECO workbench file patch.esp: Record " \ [C1] ECO workbench file patch.esp \ [1] GRUP Top "COBJ" \ [14] [:001223C7]" can not be contained in GRUP Top "COBJ"
[05:48] Errors have occured. At least one file was not saved.

Apparently, mod C7 can be the mod with the error, and I can't find it.
From the mod page:
What does the error message "Error saving XYZ.esp: Record " \ [XY] XYZ.esp \ [1] GRUP Top "COBJ" \ [XYZ] [:ABCDEFGH]" can not be contained in GRUP Top "COBJ"" mean?
Another mod/plugin in your load order contains a broken/faulty COBJ form (recipe). When ECO's patcher tries to convert that form it'll throw an error instead. Use the FormID "ABCDEFGH" in the error message as an indicator to identify the causing mod/plugin. The first two digits of the FormID reflect the spot in your load order while the six digits afterwards are the identifier for the form inside the respective plugin.

My Newest LO.
https://pastebin.com/S7WfhWUL
Last edited by rmfranco; Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:28pm
rmfranco Jul 21, 2022 @ 4:02pm 
Ok, I didn't find the mod exactly, but I found a few mods that might be it, and didn't include those, and on the 5th attempt it worked. Now to try and play, and see how far I get.
Bored Peon Jul 21, 2022 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Chaosium:
"nvwgf2umx.dll", I didn't even need to read further down, that's the error I kept getting to the point that I didn't want to play any longer
I had that error last year after updating my graphics driver for the first time. Spent almost a week trying to fix it with various drivers and such. It eventually went away. I think it fixed when I used Windows to install the drivers rather than the NVidia program.

During my research I also found out this not a Fallout 4 specific issue, it happens with a few other games as well.
rmfranco Jul 22, 2022 @ 7:55pm 
Real quick update. Made it to Concord, again, under the same quest. Made it a bit further in, and haven't crashed yet, but I gotta get to bed.
rmfranco Jul 24, 2022 @ 7:35pm 
Just real quick while I wait for a thing to load. I lowered the texture settings to Low, and it didn't crash. I played on, til mid Minuteman man quest, when I added a few patches and other mods. But, when I loaded, I crashed loading anywhere. So, I restarted and am almost back where I was. I Think it works?
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