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Shipmaster Jul 20, 2022 @ 2:52pm
FO4 NEED HELP!!!
I don't know if anyone is having the same bug and nothing I looked up has anything to do with it but for some reason there is this random large body of water floating in the air above Diamond City's entrance which causes npc's in the mayor's office to drown and causes me to be forced to swim around whenever entering the city. I do use mods but I don't recall any having anything to do with this and I can't find the source of the issue. Help is appreciated :)
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Zekiran Jul 20, 2022 @ 3:19pm 
You say you use mods, yet forget to actually include a list of them.

Obviously one of those mods is DEFINITELY BROKEN, or at least: in the wrong load order.

If you have any settlement mods, anything with weather, visual upgrades, or specific location items.... disable them and restart from an earlier save.

This is clearly not a vanilla game issue in any way. So, check your mods.

Easy way to tell is "what did you just install" because if the game was working before you reached that location and is now not, look up what you last downloaded (easy to do on Nexus, other sites who even knows) and disable that first.
Shipmaster Jul 21, 2022 @ 9:54am 
Ok I will look. Sorry, I am new to the modding scene on pc so I am still working all of this stuff out. The load order is quite long so if I discover specific ones to be the potential culprit I will post it here.
Originally posted by jerichokroft:
I don't know if anyone is having the same bug and nothing I looked up has anything to do with it but for some reason there is this random large body of water floating in the air above Diamond City's entrance which causes npc's in the mayor's office to drown and causes me to be forced to swim around whenever entering the city. I do use mods but I don't recall any having anything to do with this and I can't find the source of the issue. Help is appreciated :)

The only body of water, in diamond city is the water supply, there's a quest about it. Pool cleaning where Sheng ask you to remove the pool from 5 junk items.

A mod list would be handy. If you use MO2 mod organizer you will find the modlist under
*:\MO2\profiles\Default
Shipmaster Jul 23, 2022 @ 9:29am 
I use Vortex but I found the full list. Here is everything I have Installed and I am very aware that I went overboard and that could be an issue.

Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
HUDFramework.esm
Quick_Modification_Weapon_by_tooun.esl
CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
ExplosiveBarrelsMedium.esl
00LK_USEC_Raiders_BETA.esl
HiPolyFacesCompanionPlugin.esl
GP-7.esl
Immersive_Molotovs_FlamerESL.esl
SwimmingAnims.esl
Endless Warfare.esm
MutantMenagerie.esm
BetterCoastalWaves.esl
WorldwideGhoulsV400.esl
cheat room.esm
TheSewers.esm
ProjectZeta.esm
TacticalReload.esm
HaxAmmoMisc.esm
BerettaM9FS.esl
Arbitration - Resources.esm
ammoUI_by_tooun.esl
Dogs can grab player.esl
Better Containers.esl
KillTips_by_tooun.esl
M84FlashBang.esl
M4k4rov - MWGrenades - Replacer.esl
F34RPorts.esl
tooun_Animationpack.esl
ExtendedWeaponSystem.esm
Corpse Collision.esl
Knockout Framework.esm
[XHX] MW Price.esp
[XHX] MW Price Helmet.esp
MAIM Distributor.esp
Another Pine Forest Trees Only.esp
PlayerComments.esp
UltraInteriorLighting.esp
NiceBush.esp
Hunkered Down.esp
RynsFallout4.esp
FPSL.esp
ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_EN.esp
IHO - Immersive Hunting Overhaul.esp
VanillaLoadScreenBlocker.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Immersive_Lexington.esp
subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp
Immersive Nahant.esp
Diamond City Guard Expansion R.E.D.U.X.esp
TU3SD4Y'S Fallout 76 Watchtowers REDUX.esp
Atomic World.esp
Some Assembly Required.esp
TRD - Zombie Spawns.esp
jsrs.esp
ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp
MAIM 2.esp
MW2019 Destroyed Vehicle Intergration.esp
TRD - Raider Replacer.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
WheelMenu.esp
Escape from Boston - Springfield M14.esp
Zenit.esp
Zenit_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
Mossberg500.esp
USP .45_by_tooun.esp
EFT_PaseEyong.esp
IHO - MutantMenagerie.esp
Jericho's - Stealth Outfit V1.esp
jDS__HP_Skull_Mask.esp
FaceMask_ArmorLLI.esp
HKUSP45Tooun_LLInjector.esp
K9TacticalHarness.esp
K-9 Harness_ArmorLLI.esp
RealThrowingWeapons.esp
RealThrowWeap_LLInjector.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
XM2010_LLInjector.esp
BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
PhotoMode.esp
Graffity2ElectricBoogaloo.esp
Jericho-SkullMaskWithStraps.esp
Jericho-First Mod.esp
UniquePlayer.esp
FemaleSwat.esp
HiPolyFaces.esp
ArmA 3 Crisis Troop Equipment.esp
RE_Pack_BSAA.esp
RE_Pack_USS.esp
QBZ191.esp
QBZ191_LLInjector.esp
QBZ-191 Addon.esp
LongerDeathReloadTime.esp
[XHX] MetroExodus_Kalash_Bulldog.esp
XHX_MetroExodus_Kalash_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
EFB - Springfield M14 TR Patch.esp
BEAR_Gunners.esp
Winters_FlashBang_Replacer.esp
MGRCurrency.esp
Invisible Armors.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
KSHairdos.esp
[ETH]TREPANGNvgs.esp
[XHX] MetroExodus_Kalash_Bulldog_NoMaster.esp
ReconPack.esp
[XHX] Metro Exodus Stallion.esp
[XHX] Metro Exodus Stalllion_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
[XHX] MetroEx_Revolver.esp
[XHX] MetroEx_Valve SV-98.esp
[XHX] MetroEx_Valve.esp
[KB-47]Piper.esp
EFT_FX.esp
EFT_FST.esp
M4k4rov - MWMines Replacer.esp
PredatorKnife.esp
Krebs.esp
[XHX] RE8 - USP.esp
[XHX] RE8 - USP TR.esp
[XHX] MW Ghost Redux.esp
3pMeleeTweak.esp
3rd Person Cam SmallFix.esp
QuickTrade.esp
ITPCC.esp
Air Support Grenade.esp
TRD - Children of Atom replacer.esp
TRD - Deathclaw Replacer.esp
TRD - Mirelurk Replacer.esp
TRD - Mole Rat Replacer.esp
M2Agency.esp
M2AgencyLvlListPatch.esp
[ARRETH] FGEP.esp
HUNK.esp
LC's UHD Deathclaw.esp
Assaultron Grab Skills.esp
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
StealthBoyReplacer.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Mossberg 500 - Double Barrel Shotguns.esp
Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
PAMAP.esp
MyCart_Biohazard.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
GR123 RE Samurai Edge Beretta.esp
TRD - Robots Replacer.esp
TRD - Synth Replacer.esp
BrutalDeath.esp
ZombieWalkers.esp
[ARR] FallEvil - Mega Zombie Pack.esp
[ARR] FallEvil - MZP Nuka World Patch.esp
[ARR] FallEvil - MZP and Walkers Patch.esp
[ARR] MZP Far Harbor Patch.esp
TRD - Main - Headshots Zombies.esp
TRD - Main - Standard Zombies.esp
TrueGrass.esp
Grasslands - Unhealthy - Extreme.esp
Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp
MAIM 2 - EZ Keywords.esp
RussianStimpack.esp
MAIM 2 - Russian Stimpak Patch.esp
Stimpaks help you breathe.esp
MAIM 2 - Stimpaks Help You Breathe Patch.esp
OMEGA - IHO IAF Patch.esp
[KB-47]-ModernVehicles-V1.4.esp
MoreRust-softcolors.esp
Railroad Expansion.esp
CheatTerminal.esp
TheBackroomsTileset.esp
Gas Masks of the Wasteland.esp
Gas Mask NPC.esp
ClassicGhoulRace2022.esp
Railroadheavy.esp
SV-98.esp
BENELLI.esp
OMEGA - Benelli AIO Patch.esp
Gas Mask ArmorKeywords.esp
Subtle Face Tweaks - Curie.esp
Subtle Face Tweaks - Cait.esp
Subtle Face Tweaks - Piper.esp
Universal Gas Masks.esp
Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp
JSRS_Regions.esp
Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
TWH_TheWayHome.esp
FF_Armors.esp
InvisibleArmorAA.esp
TDOW_LC.esp
DiamondCityMoreSecurity.esp
Fallout 4 AI Overhaul.esp
TRD - Gunner Replacer.esp
TRD - Super Mutant Replacer.esp
WZXM4.esp
FallEvil - Complete Edition.esp
CombinedArmsNV.esp
CombinedArmsEXPack.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - M1911 - Pipe Revolvers.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - SG550 - Plasma Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - Barret M82A1 - Lever Action Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - Desert Eagle - .44 Revolvers.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - M9A1 - Gamma Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Combined Arms - M249 - Miniguns.esp
BOCW Outfit Pack.esp
AFT_Alt_Names_Pack1.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks_XDI_FIX.esp
MWEagle.esp
MWM4.esp
MWMpapa5.esp
MP5Submod_LLInjector.esp
MWEagle_LLInjector.esp
Graywolf's Ops-Core FAST MT (NAC) No AWKCR.esp
Graywolf's Ops-Core FAST MT (NAC).esp
Graywolf's Ops-Core FAST MT No AWKCR.esp
Graywolf's Ops-Core FAST MT.esp
M203.esp
BlurKillerComplete.esp
MWHitFx.esp
Triggermen Expansion.esp
BoS Expansion.esp
NAC.esp
AddEnemyFootstepSound.esp
[XHX] IFT - Gear.esp
[XHX] IFT - Clothing.esp
[KB-47]GUNNERS.esp
[XHX] IFT - Gunners LL.esp
RE_Pack_Gunner_LL.esp
Altyn Assault Helmet.esp
AltynHelmet_ArmorLLI.esp
AltynHelmet.esp
AnimChemRedux.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
SlowTime.esp
AnimatedRadaway.esp
AlysrazaOverlays.esp
Dark Sci Fi Vault Retexture 4k.esp
Deathclaw Grab Skills.esp
detailedferalghouls.esp
Crowbar_LLInjector.esp
ESPExplorerFO4.esp
Campsite.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
EBSO.esp
M2_Flamethrower.esp
M2_Flamethrower_2.2.esp
CombinedArmsNV_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
GhoulsCombatDogs_NoLvl.esp
CombinedArmsNV_M82_STS.esp
CombinedArmsNV_M82_Tweak.esp
MetroPorts.esp
Guards.esp
CBBE.esp
spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
CompanionAccuracy.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
dD - Screen Blood Duration Medium.esp
dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersMostlyMale.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
Corporate Wasteland - Main.esp
CazadorML.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Cazador Missile Launcher - Fat Man.esp
BZW_COD_Ghost_Jawbone.esp
ArmorPlate.esp
Casio_W59.esp
ConditionBoy.esp
Gritty Subway Stations.esp
Elzee Human Grab Attacks.esp
Locksmith.esp
Escape from Boston - M200 Intervention.esp
GlowstickRedux_simple_100.esp
GlowstickRedux_simple_200.esp
GlowstickRedux_survival_100.esp
GlowstickRedux_survival_200.esp
Locky Bastard.esp
Gunner_Operator.esp
Gunner_Operator_ArmorLLI.esp
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
[ETH] ADS Sound Replacer - Packed.esp
Fatigues Extended.esp
DamageReaction.esp
ESK_NoMoreLeapingGhouls.esp
HaxRPG7.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - RPG-7V2 - Missile Launchers.esp
Karma_Pickups.esp
SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Personal Minigun - Gatling Lasers.esp
HBT - Skibadaa Weapon Pack.esp
Hollywood Bullet Tracers.esp
Feral Ghoul Bite Skills.esp
GibsofGlory.esp
jags78_IGoreItMyWay.esp
MAIM 2 - Dismemberment Patch.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part1.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part2.esp
FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part3.esp
Glock19x.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Glock 19x FX0x01 - Deliverer.esp
IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp
LooksMirror.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
KrissVector.esp
Immersive HUD.esp
FineZoom.esp
LC's UHD Stingwing.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LC's UHD Brahmin.esp
No Seeker Boulders.esp
Radstag Grab Skill.esp
Radscorpion Stab Skill.esp
Binoculars.esp
disablelegendaryspawns.esp
PersonalSleepingBag.esp
EPO_LowHDR.esp
00LK_MW_Explosions.esp
CarExplosions.esp
_00Stingray.esp
GrenadeExpansionPack.esp
MK18.esp
Wana_SA58.esp
Wana SA58 TR.esp
MK18 Armory Project.esp
MK18_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
[KB-47]Warbird.esp
LString_Bow.esp
LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
LeeEnfieldNo4MkI - VIS&AWKCR.esp
LString_LLInjector.esp
NeighborWatch.esp
FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
00LK_MW2019_SAS_Companions.esp
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
BasementLiving.esp
SigMCX.esp
G3A3.esp
AK400.esp
MP7.esp
HKUSP9mm.esp
BH_Colt M1911.esp
BH_Colt M1911_LvlList.esp
HKUSP9mmLvlList.esp
ArtyBinos_Stingray_A10_Patch.esp
GIAT_FAMAS.esp
Giat_Famas_OKP-7.esp
Famas_Addon.esp
G36Complex.esp
HK_MP5.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - MP5 Complex - Submachine Guns.esp
HK_UMP.esp
MW-Krueger.esp
MW-Yegor.esp
OakleyMFrame.esp
ProtecHelmet.esp
RadiantBirdsv05.esp
RBJustin.esp
Realistic Roads - Black Asphalt.esp
dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
RainofBrassPetals.esp
InteractionAnimations.esp
M4k4rov - MWGrenades - Replacer.esp
Yaoguai grab skill.esp
vertunlockbospilot.esp
personalvertibird.esp
EFT_Rhino.esp
XM2010 Night Vision Brightness Patch.esp
[XHX] Caliber USA Seal.esp
[XHX] IFT - Raiders LL.esp
[KB-47]SYNTHS.esp
Sneaky Kills.esp
Saya_lsstring_VWAS.esp
OMEGA - Tactical Molotov Replacer.esp
SKKFeralNights.esp
[ARRETH] FGEP SKK Feral Nights Patch.esp
StartMeUpShaunDefaultAppearance.esp
Elzee Recoil Shake.esp
UltimateLockpick.esp
Benny's Imports Destroyed Vehicle Pack.esp
BZW_SWAT.esp
Replacer Pack - SWAT Armor - GN Neighborhood Watch.esp
Replacer Pack - SWAT Armor - Vault Security.esp
OpsCoreFASTHelmet.esp
SKKCombatStalkers.esp
[XHX] IFT - Gear NVG WTTO.esp
TAC.esp
TacticalBeanie.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
M1A.esp
RemoteExplosives.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_STS.esp
SigMCX_MaterialPack.esp
3dscopes-replacer.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - MK18 CQBR - Assault Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - AK400 - Pipe Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Agency Arms Benelli M2 - Combat Shotguns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Escape From Boston Springfield M14 - Pipe Bolt Action.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - FN FAL SA58 - Combat Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - G36 Complex - Laser Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - HK USP - 10mm Pistols.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Kriss Vector - Radium Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - LMT M203 - Gauss Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - QBZ 191 - Institute Guns.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Sig MCX - Laser Muskets.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Springfield Armory M1A - Hunting Rifles.esp
Modern Weapon Replacer - Zenit - Handmade Rifles.esp
Children of Atom Expansion.esp
44MBF4.esp
SuperMutantLL.esp
Rubles.esp
[KB-47]-INSTITUTE.esp
[KB-47]BOS.esp
[KB-47]Cait.esp
[KB-47]MacCready.esp
[KB-47]Nick Valentine.esp
4estGimp - FGEP_TankTweakFix.esp
AAC_HoneyBadger.esp
HoneyBadger Expansion.esp
AAC_HoneyBadger_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp
[KB-47]Minutemen.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_TR_patch.esp
M1A_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
SigMCX_TacticalReload.esp
QBZ191_TR_patch.esp
KrissVector_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
HKUSP9mmTacReload.esp
HK_UMP_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
HK_MP5_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
G36Complex_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
Glock19x_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
AK400_TacticalReload.esp
MP7_TacticalReloadPatch.esp
M2AgencyTacticalReloadPatch.esp
NAC-FH.esp
NAC-NW.esp
god.esp
NAC-2287.esp
moribndwrld.esp
Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
BEAR_Gunners_NoFem.esp
Bye-Bye Clouds.esp
Classic Fallout Music.esp
Classic Fallout Music Far Harbor.esp
Classic Fallout Music NukaWorld.esp
TacticalTablet.esp
TacticalTablet_LMCC.esp
BH_Colt M1911_TR Patch.esp
Nexus_PMC.esp
PMC_extended.esp
JMM - MW19 SAS Companions Tweaks.esp
StartMeUp.esp
StartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
TacticalTablet_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
SatelliteWorldMap.esp
Originally posted by jerichokroft:

This ain't overboard, you haven't seen my list. 370 mods and i got about 500 more waiting to be installed.

Drop SwimmingAnims.esl, below TheSewers.esm.

Also i found a typo, is the MOD subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp depending on another MOD, or does a MOD need subwayrunnnernodynamic.esp. Triple n where it should be a double.
Last edited by isomorphic_projection; Jul 23, 2022 @ 10:16am
woron552 Jul 23, 2022 @ 10:21am 
почему в продаже нет Fallout4
Originally posted by woron552:
почему в продаже нет Fallout4
Did a quick translation, i would not know.

спросите здесь https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/26/
Shipmaster Jul 23, 2022 @ 11:41am 
Ok I will try that. Thanks for your help I originally made this post under the assumption nobody would reply but I was quite wrong lol.
Originally posted by jerichokroft:
Ok I will try that. Thanks for your help I originally made this post under the assumption nobody would reply but I was quite wrong lol.
I always go through a full list. Also for my own benefit. I might find a cool MOD in it, i missed on the Nexus or anywhere else. Or prevent a bug within my own list.
But if you use MO2 like i do. Then the above solution is the most logical, after reading through similar complains throughout the Net. And knowing how certain MOD's could overwrite each other, so you also have a MOD removing clouds in the far distance. Try to disable it.
Last edited by isomorphic_projection; Jul 23, 2022 @ 11:51am
Shipmaster Jul 23, 2022 @ 3:14pm 
Thanks, If you want info on some mods just let me know. A good chunk come from discord servers so they may be hard to find without help.
Helios Jul 23, 2022 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by jerichokroft:
I don't know if anyone is having the same bug and nothing I looked up has anything to do with it but for some reason there is this random large body of water floating in the air above Diamond City's entrance which causes npc's in the mayor's office to drown and causes me to be forced to swim around whenever entering the city. I do use mods but I don't recall any having anything to do with this and I can't find the source of the issue. Help is appreciated :)
Cant tell you what mod caused it but this should be something like a dirty edit of the zone someone "moved" the water up if you open the files with xedit you would need to look for the one that change that zone.
duanevp Jul 23, 2022 @ 4:57pm 
As always, the problem is mods. If there ARE no mods being used, then the _solution_ is mods. Learn it. Know it. LIVE it.
Iron Knights (Banned) Jul 23, 2022 @ 5:29pm 
Next time title it properly, you'd get more specialized help. "I need help with MODS. Mods did this..."
Zekiran Jul 23, 2022 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by duanevp:
As always, the problem is mods. If there ARE no mods being used, then the _solution_ is mods. Learn it. Know it. LIVE it.


The solution is almost never "put another mod on it" because you can only play Fallout Four Mod Jenga for so long before it all completely falls apart...
JonExx Jul 24, 2022 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by jerichokroft:
I use Vortex but I found the full list. Here is everything I have Installed and I am very aware that I went overboard and that could be an issue.
...

*snip*
...

you have this activated:

Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp

But I could find neither C&P nor GfH in your mod-list.
GfH edits the area around the entrance to Diamond city.
So, this would be my first candidate to check.
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