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べしん Nov 1, 2022 @ 10:47am
face turn dark brown randomly when loading save file or dying
please check the screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/XOu85zv.png

It randomly makes the the face dark brown, even some of the textures that is featured in loading screen sometimes have bad quality like its not rendering which i think are both the cause of this brown face bug too

could anyone help me locate the suspect mod that cause this bug please?


0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a WorkshopFramework.esm
11 b DEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esm
12 c NPCScaling.esm
13 d EasyHacking.esp
14 e LongerPowerLines3x.esp
15 f SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
16 10 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
17 11 dd-enhanced blood basic.esp
18 12 improved map with visible roads.esp
19 13 companion infinite ammo.esp
20 14 visiblecompanionaffinity.esp
21 15 azarponytailhairstyles.esp
22 16 lovingcait.esp
23 17 lovingcurie.esp
24 18 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
25 19 ValdacilsItemSorting-AmmoWeightless.esp
26 1a ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortTop.esp
27 1b ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkWeightless.esp
28 1c ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunkJustMoney.esp
29 1d ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp
30 1e ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp
31 1f ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp
32 20 ValdacilsItemSorting-MiscWeightless.esp
33 21 Armorsmith Extended.esp
34 22 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron-Weightless.esp
35 23 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp
36 24 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp
37 25 ValdacilsItemSorting-AidWeightless.esp
38 26 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCArmorByClassOverride.esp
39 27 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorBySlot.esp
40 28 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCCosmeticsByTypeOverride.esp
41 29 ValdacilsItemSorting-ModsWeightless.esp
42 2a ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCWeaponsOverride.esp
43 2b modgirlyanimation.esp
44 2c SurvivalOptions.esp
45 2d def_w_buffs1.esp
46 2e CompanionStatus.esp
47 2f HoloTime.esp
48 30 BetterSettlers.esp
49 31 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
50 32 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
51 33 Some Assembly Required.esp
52 34 Auto Loot.esp
53 35 Non-Playable Flags Patch.esp
54 36 female Presets.esp
55 37 Auto Loot - UFO4P Components Patch.esp
56 38 lovingpiper.esp
57 39 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
58 3a LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
59 3b busty grrl.esp
LooksMenu.esp
60 3c Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius x3.esp
61 3d BetterGenerators.esp
254 FE 0 Wetness Shader Fix.esp
62 3e Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp
63 3f NoMoreNightVisionWithNighPersonLVL2FarHarbor.esp
64 40 NoGuardclean.esp
65 41 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
66 42 RemoveTurretPowerReq.esp
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Playzr 🐵 Nov 1, 2022 @ 10:57am 
Yeah that can happen. I think it's mods that can cause it randomly. When you restart it'll reset itself. Looks like the character spent too long in the sun.
べしん Nov 1, 2022 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Рlαγζr 🐵:
Yeah that can happen. I think it's mods that can cause it randomly. When you restart it'll reset itself. Looks like the character spent too long in the sun.
what mod? can u specify it?
Playzr 🐵 Nov 1, 2022 @ 11:08am 
No idea, sorry. Never looked into it. It resolves itself and I'm not too bothered when it does happen that it breaks my immersion.
wesnef Nov 1, 2022 @ 11:38am 
I thought I'd read that brown faces was caused by resolution mis-match between all the various texture files used for faces (texture, normal map, makeup/tattoo/scar overlays, etc). Like one of them is a 2k texture and another is 1k.

But that would be all the time, not intermittent, wouldn't it?
Stardustfire Nov 1, 2022 @ 12:36pm 
the high resolution pack can cause that, if you have it installed onetimes that bug will linger even when you uncheck it again, only a complete game deinstallation and fresh install will fix it.
seen a lot of this threads too from ppl who used texture mods.
Chaosium Nov 1, 2022 @ 12:46pm 
Open the console, type slm 14, change a random part of your character's face (e.g. just browsing through hair options) and the face auto corrects itself
Otherwise, you can just manually save the game and reload that save until it goes away
Nite69 Nov 1, 2022 @ 1:47pm 
the betheda high res pack can cause that, disable it in the DLC options and get Vivid Fallout from Nexus instead its much better
Originally posted by Nite69:
the betheda high res pack can cause that, disable it in the DLC options and get Vivid Fallout from Nexus instead its much better
Not true cause I don't use HD Res Pack.
Some mods cause this tbh.
Only way I was able to fix it is removing the mod that caused it.
Also another fix is save and reload you game until the black face is gone.
The Eyes Of Beauty and busty grrl mods can be the issue.
II stopped using that mod for the eyes. I use a different one.
Busty can also cause this.
Last edited by ⎠⎝Zushikatetomoto⎠⎝ UFO; Nov 1, 2022 @ 1:58pm
Bored Peon Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:04pm 
1. Aint always a mod issue, not enough GPU can cause the issue as well.
- Save/load can correct it, not always
- Save/exit/load will always fix it.

2. Make sure your face decals is set high in your INIs.
[Decals] uMaxDecals=1000 bDecals=1 bSkinnedDecals=1 uMaxSkinDecals=100 uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

3. Enable triple buffering on your video card
- Go to video card manager program
- Manage 3D settings
- Go to programs settings and add Fallout 4
- Enable triple buffering.

4. Ensure your skin altering mods are in their correct loading order and have the necessary mod requirements.

5. Get rid of the high resolution DLC it is a complete waste of space at 50gb.
- Go to game tab
- Manage my DLC
- Remove High Resolution DLC

These tweaks will not make the problem go away completely. It will reduce the frequency black face happens. It happens because Fallout 4 sucks @#$% when it comes to shadowing and once the memory is eaten up for shadowing you start seeing black faces.

Sidenote: Beware of Black Face mod fixes and Looksmenu. They used to work because they used a decal slot unused by other mods. Looksmenu now uses that slot for eyebrows. So using the fix mods will give you missing eyebrows.
Last edited by Bored Peon; Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:08pm
Castyles Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:41pm 
If you don't want to mess around with files and saves there's also a mod that fix this annoying issue. And it works. Search for "rust face" or "brown face" on Nexus. Cheers.
Last edited by Castyles; Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:41pm
Playzr 🐵 Nov 1, 2022 @ 2:53pm 
I've used eyes of beauty mod, forgot what the benefits of it are but there you go.
べしん Nov 2, 2022 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
1. Aint always a mod issue, not enough GPU can cause the issue as well.
- Save/load can correct it, not always
- Save/exit/load will always fix it.

2. Make sure your face decals is set high in your INIs.
[Decals] uMaxDecals=1000 bDecals=1 bSkinnedDecals=1 uMaxSkinDecals=100 uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

3. Enable triple buffering on your video card
- Go to video card manager program
- Manage 3D settings
- Go to programs settings and add Fallout 4
- Enable triple buffering.

4. Ensure your skin altering mods are in their correct loading order and have the necessary mod requirements.

5. Get rid of the high resolution DLC it is a complete waste of space at 50gb.
- Go to game tab
- Manage my DLC
- Remove High Resolution DLC

These tweaks will not make the problem go away completely. It will reduce the frequency black face happens. It happens because Fallout 4 sucks @#$% when it comes to shadowing and once the memory is eaten up for shadowing you start seeing black faces.

Sidenote: Beware of Black Face mod fixes and Looksmenu. They used to work because they used a decal slot unused by other mods. Looksmenu now uses that slot for eyebrows. So using the fix mods will give you missing eyebrows.
this is a well detailed steps,
actually its the mod i promise, Before, I only used mods from in-game mod download
No brownface even after 50hours

I played multiple save files now and got 300 hours, it only started when I downloaded alot of mods from nexusmods. therefore the suspect was from nexusmods mods i downloaded but I lost track which is which now.
_KC76_ Nov 2, 2022 @ 5:00am 
If that is your actual Load Order, listed in your OP, I see a few issues, like Looks Menu being loaded AFTER Looks Menu Customization Compendium .. Did you sort your load order manually, sort with your mod manager, or use the actual LOOT program?
べしん Nov 2, 2022 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
If that is your actual Load Order, listed in your OP, I see a few issues, like Looks Menu being loaded AFTER Looks Menu Customization Compendium .. Did you sort your load order manually, sort with your mod manager, or use the actual LOOT program?
i use LOOT software, could u help me with load order perhaps?
damn this is still a thing? it happens with literally no changes to the vanilla game, kek
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Date Posted: Nov 1, 2022 @ 10:47am
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