I want to be poor...

[Charlemagne]

I'm searching for some mod but haven't found a good one to make me poor. I used to play with Fortune Finder and Scrounger because it makes the game more fun that every container has something, however this made me so boringly rich. Scavenging stuff to sell became pointless.
So I started a new game avoiding those perks. However it made little difference, just delayed it a bit to become nauseating rich! And to have thousands and thousands of ammo.
I would like the game to really make me work to become rich. To force me to go out in supply runs because I ran out of money and resources. To force me to buy expensive ammo all the time because it's scarce. To actually need to try to save ammo in battles because it's expensive and scarce.
The game needs more money sinks. The only thing is the Home Plate and it is ludicrously cheap. It should cost ten times more. There are also a few ridiculously priced armor pieces, but they are all useless, buying them is not money sinking buy money throw away. Might as well put the caps in a trash can in Lexington.
The main problem is that the game throws tons of stuff at you that all you can do is sell. Purified water. Jet. Flares. Excessive chems. Expensive weapons and armor dropped by enemies you kill. (Having some weapon mods doesn't help. I love the weapons but they are obscenely overpriced).
Of course you can self discipline and stop picking up and selling. But then the game loses some of its drive.
Please give me a Poor mod!

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Of course you can self discipline and stop picking up and selling. But then the game loses some of its drive.

Disagree with this.

1. Just drop all your caps and valuable stuff into a container and ignore them.
2. Do not do anything to try and make extra money, like extra water production.
3. never sell anything produced by your settlements.
4. Be a hoarder. Keep all the fancy unique stuff as trophies.
5. Play in survival mode or like you are in survival mode. No fast travel. You must carry everything back that you want to sell. Limit you strength if not in survival.
6. Use a mod to remove the perks that give you more stuff.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Of course you can self discipline and stop picking up and selling. But then the game loses some of its drive.

Disagree with this.

1. Just drop all your caps and valuable stuff into a container and ignore them.
2. Do not do anything to try and make extra money, like extra water production.
3. never sell anything produced by your settlements.
4. Be a hoarder. Keep all the fancy unique stuff as trophies.
5. Play in survival mode or like you are in survival mode. No fast travel. You must carry everything back that you want to sell. Limit you strength if not in survival.
6. Use a mod to remove the perks that give you more stuff.

Yes, this is what I meant by self discipline but then I get a feel of waste. Either hoard or throw away perfectly good stuff. This horrifies me in the real world and this translates to my game 8*)

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Yes, this is what I meant by self discipline but then I get a feel of waste. Either hoard or throw away perfectly good stuff. This horrifies me in the real world and this translates to my game 8*)

Gotcha. I also MUST pick up every single can, etc. I finally got to where I would leave behind low level raider armor and pipe guns. But I will still grab them if I have the carry weight.

There are mods that reduce the stuff and mods that change the merchants. No idea what they are but they have been mentioned. Just search through Nexus. Practice your search-arts. :)

[ZarahNeander]

I can recommend 'game configuration menu' aka gcm https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33759, the swiss army knife for all your gmst needs. Set the barter related variables to be really punishing (buy for nothing, sell for a fortune)

[danconnors]

Quit using your workbench COMPLETELY. You will be amazed at how poor you will suddenly become as you: Can no longer produce pure water. Can't plant crops. can't make beds, recruit settlers, build any buildings, turrets.....etc. For a real challenge do this in survival mode.

[duanevp]

Originally posted by danconnors:

Quit using your workbench COMPLETELY. You will be amazed at how poor you will suddenly become as you: Can no longer produce pure water. Can't plant crops. can't make beds, recruit settlers, build any buildings, turrets.....etc. For a real challenge do this in survival mode.

This won't make you poor. Just makes it take longer to get rich. In my playthroughs I don't harvest plants or excess water, generally ignore Preston and Sanctuary after saving them from Museum of Freedom raiders, don't pick up other settlements except maybe Hangman's Alley (which adds nothing but loot from the raiders there), don't add anything to settlements nor scrap anything from settlements, don't need to build defenses nor add settlers, etc, etc.

Just by looting containers and bodies - and without even having scrounger or fortune finder perks, you really still can't help but operate at a net gain (unless you're just not careful). If you spray a lot of ammo downrange with a particular weapon that just means you have to shift to weapons with different calibers for a while as you rebuild your ammo supply. You don't need to buy much of anything EXCEPT ammo for certain weapons. Even on survival I've never had a real problem staying in food and water without farming it OR buying it. And of course, with a melee-oriented character you don't need ammo at all. If you don't use power armor you don't need to keep maintaining it or feeding it power cores.

Fallout isn't The Long Dark. SCRAPING BY just isn't what it's gameplay is designed for. You can make "survival" more of a challenge but IME that just means it just adds more pieces to juggle to make you busier but doesn't actually make it likely you'll DIE from thirst or starvation or radiation and not being able to find what you need to simply exist from one day to the next. You'll find it. You'll live. You may spend a lot more of your game time attending to thirst and food and being hampered by radiation debuffs but it won't STOP you progressing once you get the hang of it.

So, yeah, I can see where someone would find the idea of a mod to ACTUALLY keep you poor and STRUGGLING more and not just JUGGLING more would be attractive.

YMMV

[PrimeNum7]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2593/?tab=description

[Grendalcat]

Use a minigun as your only weapon. That'll burn some caps.

[Solomon Hawk]

Start a new game.
Learn from your past mistakes (as you reckon them to be).

Be poor and be happy.

[Jork]

horizon actually does a good job with keeping the player poor, problem is it's a huge overhaul that changes a lot of stuff many people won't like and i'm assuming you won't want to install a big overhaul mod just for this 1 thing. even at level 25 i was still broke in horizon since a lot of my money went to doctors.

i only stopped playing horizon because there's like 8923492384 settlement changes & additions, yet not nearly enough documentation anywhere on what you're supposed to do for your settlements since all that stuff is overhauled as well. the only documentation i could find was outdated and barely relevant.

i liked horizon other than settlements being tied heavily to progression & providing absolutely no proper guidance on anything regarding any of that so i gave up.

figured i'd mention it regardless.

[Ilja]

I had the similar issue with Skyrim. I solved it by installing Death Alternative and adding weight to gold. Now I had a reason to waste money to buy those houses around Skyrim, to store stuff in them. I couldn't just carry all septims with me, because of carry weight limitations and chance of getting robbed on defeat.

I am used first two mods in my previous build and just added the third one to current build. It does not make my character "poor", but limits the life in riches. Note that you can use these mods even if you do not want character getting knocked out and robbed at all. I am unsure yet if I want that to my new game, but it was fun in last game.

Knockout Framework (Death Alternative)
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27086

Non-Lethal Armory
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27162

Stash Those Caps
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23558

[Bandy]

I was going to start a thread to get advice on how to stop my hoarding tendencies. I just can't help myself, even in survival mode, I <might> just need that extra baby rattle!

The worst game for me (re: my problem) is/was No Man's Sky, I couldn't get a big enough hauler, so I had multiple haulers sitting on different planets, sigh...

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by PrimeNum7:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2593/?tab=description

I tried out this. So far it's looking great. I'm feeling really poor! Until now I haven't found *one* Radaway to clean about 12 rad hp I'm carrying around. I don't have resources to build the rad cleaning arch either. Killing the Deathclaw in Concord was real hard without any Jet and really low on Stimpaks. Food is scarce, and I'm counting on it to heal because the aforementioned lack of Stimpaks. I'm hoarding pre-war stuff. I'm looking forward to buy Radaway, Rad-X and Stimpaks, something I NEVER had done in 4000+ hours of play. I was always selling them.
This feels more Survival than Survival mode. I had dropped that because it wasn't any challenge anymore but I think now to combine it would be brutal. Yay!