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gondlyr May 27, 2022 @ 9:38pm
Restoring Order
I searched Discussions for Restoring Order but they all seemed to be about quest bugs and not about a character not having the right SPECIAL and perks to finish the quest so I'm asking here to know if I'm understanding the quest correctly.

If there is another way someone please let me know.

I'm at the Master Terminal. I am playing a low Intelligence build so I cannot hack terminals. So I'm guessing I cannot finish this quest line? I have holo tapes collected but that does not help if I cannot play them in the correct terminal.

From looking at the Wiki this seems to be the only way to access the elevator. If certain perks and special spec is required for a quest then it really should not even be given to that character being played. It ends up being a bunch of wasted time to get near the end of the quest line to find this out.

I know I could come back much later and be forced to put points into Intelligence and then the perks to use a Master Terminal. But I would rather just leave this unfinished if this is the only way to continue this quest.
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wtiger27 May 27, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
There is usually a key or password to by pass any quest related terminal you need to use. Unless they are Novice level ones.

You also have the Option to use Nick Valentine. I think he can hack into Master Terminals. But I am not sure about that. I know Cait can unlock Master Locks, but it will take her several tries. You just have to keep telling her to try it.

Edit. Oh wait, you are on the Mechanist quest? Are you trying to by pass the fight and using the back way? If not, then as Steve pointed out, the Mechanist gives you the passcode to unlock the terminal which lets you take control of the Mechanist Lair.

And besides, you have to use a robot equipped with the device to open the doors. Which can have a mod installed on them to hack terminals. But I do not think they can hack Master terminals with that mod installed. Only up to expert level.
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steventirey May 27, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
No quest, base game or DLC, requires any perk at all to complete. At worst, you have to pick a novice lock or hack a novice terminal (the easiest ones, and those don't require a perk), or there will be a way to bypass it (like a key). You are supposed to get the terminal passcode from the Mechanist that lets you use the terminal.
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gondlyr May 28, 2022 @ 7:00am 
So far I can't find a way to the Machanist so I don't know how to get a terminal passcode from him. I didn't build my own robot I put the mod on Ada that scans to open doors. Also gave her ability to hack terminals but when I try to command her to do so I only get the Dismiss, Self Destruct, never mind, talk options, and never the normal companion / follower stay , follow, do this thing option. So I guess I messed up and didn't build my own new robot. Thought Ada was kind of a required follower for the quest line, like Serena, so it didn't even pop into my mind to build my own original robot.

It was bad enough to build a robot body for Jezebel then talk to her and find out that she only wants to kill humans. So if I ever bother to do this again I will not do that.

I wasn't trying to avoid a fight, I just don't know how to get to the Machinist. My first time doing this quest line, which I figured soon enough that this was from a DLC but had never done it before. I thought following the path that the scan leads you would be the way to the Machinist, why else would the game make that a requirement to install and use. It leads to holo tapes. Forshadowing Fallout 76.

The closest I got to the quest marker was 16, whatever unit that number means, but I'm facing a wall at that point. Usually I'm at 50 or 60 unknown units away.

If the way following the Scans is the correct way to the Machinist then I'm just not seeing it. I run into dead ends and when I went back toward the entrance I found the hole in the wall which goes to the Master locked Terminal. Then read the Wiki as I was still at a dead end in trying to figure out this quest. As just being a lemming and following the quest marker only gets me to within 16 units or so of the quest target yet I could not find a way to go beyond that point. I was just trying to explore the whole place like I usually do, not be a lemming, but then you try that when you eventually find dead ends.

I'll look around more with my pip boy light on, which I don't normally do as I'm normally sneaking around not trying to be seen nor trying to look like a lighthouse to things trying to kill me. The last area I was in when I turned around was the jail area with 2 levels. The last eye bot that I killed was well before that and said that I was getting close. I guess I missed a turn somewhere.

Sorry for the long answer, just explaining my thinking while doing this dlc quest for the first time and being stumped on what to do to finish it. I'm not a completionist but its frustrating when I get stuck.
gondlyr May 28, 2022 @ 7:54am 
Just found an Lift that goes down to the Research Labs. Thank you Pip Boy light and searching every wall looking for that pixel that lets me interact with it to open something that looks like a wall which I quickly pass up my first time by.
wtiger27 May 28, 2022 @ 8:06am 
You have to give Jezebel a body to advance the quest line. I normally assign her to a supply line after getting the information needed.

To get thru each door to reach the Mechanist, you need to equip a robot ( I use Ada, ) with the device which will allow you to open them. Just open each door which has the red device next to it you need to activate. You will eventually reach the last door which will start the quest to confront her. Go in there and it will automatically start when you are about half way in.

She will accuse you of all kinds of evil, tell her what ever you want, she can not be reasoned with that I was ever able to reach at least. Then back your way into the corner next to the last door you opened to enter her lair. She will send out a lot of robots to kill you. Defeat them and then she should come out and have a conversation with you.

I normally convince her to stand down and she will accept it. And then you will need to get the passcode from her, to take control of the workbench there. Which is done at the terminal with all the robots clicking away.
gondlyr May 28, 2022 @ 8:47am 
Thank you for the help!
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