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caior16 Oct 7, 2022 @ 5:53pm
FO4 crash in Boston
I've tried playing Fallout 4 on X-box One and X-box Series S, with and without DLCs, with and without Mods. In all instances, at some point the game, my save would be constantly crashing somewhere in Boston. I've done my research and found out that this is a common problem with FO4 players on console and I was wondering if the PC version had the same issue.
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_KC76_ Oct 7, 2022 @ 5:57pm 
Depends on your Computer's specs .. The problem with Console is the limitation of the hardware.
Its a bethesda game. Except issues. Even on pc this game runs horrible at some locations. Since game engine is trash. I used to play it on Xbox one too. Same location always crash the game. No possible fix
_KC76_ Oct 7, 2022 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by FEAR:
Its a bethesda game. Except issues. Even on pc this game runs horrible at some locations. Since game engine is trash. I used to play it on Xbox one too. Same location always crash the game. No possible fix

Potato PC is Potato ..
wtiger27 Oct 7, 2022 @ 6:26pm 
Originally posted by FEAR:
Its a bethesda game. Except issues. Even on pc this game runs horrible at some locations. Since game engine is trash. I used to play it on Xbox one too. Same location always crash the game. No possible fix

Not true for everyone. Even my older system which is 9 years old ( I7 4770 GTX 1650 Super ) , can play the game on ultra settings, with very few bugs and CTD's are rare. I did experience some slow downs in certain places in downtown Boston, never to the point it was too bad to enjoy the game.

My new system? No slow downs that I have noticed anyplace, anytime. Same Ultra settings.
I use no mods.
Bored Peon Oct 7, 2022 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by caior16:
I've done my research and found out that this is a common problem with FO4 players on console and I was wondering if the PC version had the same issue.
It is a complicated question with complicated answers.

Goodneighbor/Hub 360 area is THE most FPS eating intense area in the game.

One one hand a PC with the right specifications, right drivers, and proper game settings can be fine in that area.

On the other hand mods playing with textures (in a bad way), bad drivers, or a potato PC is going to struggle really hard.

After my XBox 360 ate my Fallout:New Vegas CD I went PC and never regretted it since.

Now would it help by creating a save on the XBox before going into the area, exiting the game and restarting the game? Sorta like clearing out anything kept in the memory buffer?
_KC76_ Oct 7, 2022 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by caior16:
I've done my research and found out that this is a common problem with FO4 players on console and I was wondering if the PC version had the same issue.
It is a complicated question with complicated answers.

Goodneighbor/Hub 360 area is THE most FPS eating intense area in the game.

One one hand a PC with the right specifications, right drivers, and proper game settings can be fine in that area.

On the other hand mods playing with textures (in a bad way), bad drivers, or a potato PC is going to struggle really hard.

After my XBox 360 ate my Fallout:New Vegas CD I went PC and never regretted it since.

Now would it help by creating a save on the XBox before going into the area, exiting the game and restarting the game? Sorta like clearing out anything kept in the memory buffer?

Look at you, all following me around Steam, try'na bait me into arguing with you ...lolz troll

It's not complicated at all, it is very simple, as I said in the first post, the answer depends on the users computer specs.
Bored Peon Oct 7, 2022 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
It's not complicated at all, it is very simple, as I said in the first post, the answer depends on the users computer specs.
So you are saying bad drivers, bad settings, and bad mods never cause downtown crashes.

Trying taking the opportunity to learn rather than throwing insults.
_KC76_ Oct 7, 2022 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by KingConrail:
It's not complicated at all, it is very simple, as I said in the first post, the answer depends on the users computer specs.
So you are saying bad drivers, bad settings, and bad mods never cause downtown crashes.

Trying taking the opportunity to learn rather than throwing insults.

...Drivers and Settings are "the PC specs", as in "Specifications", and no where defined as limited to Hardware Specs. The only Mention I made to "hardware" was the limitation of Hardware in a console. Anything that you ASSUMED from those words is on you.
As for Mods ...Mods are a choice, and choices have responsibilities and consequences.

You should take your own advice, and stop trying to insult everyone you disagree with.
Bored Peon Oct 7, 2022 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
So you are saying bad drivers, bad settings, and bad mods never cause downtown crashes.

Trying taking the opportunity to learn rather than throwing insults.

...Drivers and Settings are "the PC specs", as in "Specifications", and no where defined as limited to Hardware Specs. The only Mention I made to "hardware" was the limitation of Hardware in a console. Anything that you ASSUMED from those words is on you.
As for Mods ...Mods are a choice, and choices have responsibilities and consequences.

You should take your own advice, and stop trying to insult everyone you disagree with.
So next time someone has a bad driver I can tell them they have bad specifications and they will understand...um no.
_KC76_ Oct 7, 2022 @ 8:32pm 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by KingConrail:

...Drivers and Settings are "the PC specs", as in "Specifications", and no where defined as limited to Hardware Specs. The only Mention I made to "hardware" was the limitation of Hardware in a console. Anything that you ASSUMED from those words is on you.
As for Mods ...Mods are a choice, and choices have responsibilities and consequences.

You should take your own advice, and stop trying to insult everyone you disagree with.
So next time someone has a bad driver I can tell them they have bad specifications and they will understand...um no.

there are no "bad drivers", only bad users.

The game came out in like 2015 ...any driver created for any hardware AFTER that time, is not the cause of any crashes or slow FPS ..Drivers are based on Hardware, and the Hardware's capabilities. Drivers have to match the current Hardware, not a 10 year old game.
...so yes, basic computer configuration, having the correct drivers for the hardware installed, is a part of a computers specifications.
Bored Peon Oct 7, 2022 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
So next time someone has a bad driver I can tell them they have bad specifications and they will understand...um no.
there are no "bad drivers", only bad users.
ROFLMAO. Okay, whatever.
_KC76_ Oct 8, 2022 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by KingConrail:
there are no "bad drivers", only bad users.
ROFLMAO. Okay, whatever.
selective edit much, creepy stalker weirdo .. seriously, you need to stop following me all over the steam discussion boards, you look desperate.
Vesperas Oct 8, 2022 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
It is a complicated question with complicated answers.

^ This is the correct answer.

The downtown Boston area is well known to be problematic for all systems. The worst areas are usually regarded as the areas around Goodneighbor, Hub 360, Fallen Skybridge, and the Mass Bay Medical Center. Generally speaking, a halfway decent PC can power through it, but even then it's common to experience random, occasionally large FPS drops. Even high-end PC's are bound to struggle with that area, especially later in the game.

The reason for crashes can be due to any number of things.

If you're in the area for a long time with different enemy factions fighting each other, as often happens in that area, it can occasionally cause the game to hang or crash when NPC's cannot create a path to their target in a reasonable amount of time.

This is significantly more likely to occur if:

  • Automatron is installed, since it adds both Mechanist and Rust Devil patrols to the area.
  • The Brotherhood of Steel has arrived, since it adds Vertibirds and BoS soldier patrols to the area.
  • You've completed the U.S.S. Constitution quest.
  • You have mods that affect combat AI or combat boundaries in some way.
  • Finally, you've played with mods or Creation Club content that break precombined meshes at any point, regardless if said mods or Creation Club content are currently installed or not. This is the biggest one and probably number one cause of crashes, especially in that area.

The only real way to determine what the issue causing your specific crashes is requires a fair amount of play testing to pinpoint, which normally implies starting a new save without adding any mods, sadly.

Short of doing that, your best bet is probably to refrain from fast traveling to that area as much as possible (specifically, outside areas such as the Combat Zone or the Shamrock Taphouse--Goodneighbor itself should be okay).
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