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FPS 60+ But stutter
When I use mouse to rotate, I know my fps is smooth 60+

But when I strafe ( ADAD button) , I see stuttering. Also NPC walking around seems stuttering too.

i3 10500, gtx1050ti 16GB ram.
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The Grumbleskull Jan 17, 2022 @ 12:48am 
Microstutter is pretty common in first person. Does it stutter in third?
Zekiran Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:01am 
Cap the game at 60 it's not mean to be "+".

Just because your system can handle other games much higher, this one is not fit to do so, by engine limitations.
Iceira Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:22am 
you have a I3 thats why.

even old crap pc with I5 or i7 run it better.
i know many dont know it, and why so many forget basic info from the past.

we had a saying you have a bambus rocket we use to say that to fast 250cc MC thats seem to fit next gen pc that is I3 then all other games goes I5 or I7 as game requirement
and now you want us to tell you what's wrong. thats the problem in this world, you have issue with multi core game requirements, your pc cant handle it so it make allocated calculation and try to keep up.

im sure i will get alot of heat from this or angry post , let me put it this way you bought it now you have to live with it.

try see this the other way around , atleast someone told you this.

if you need game requirement here it is
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

thats your problem here, alot of tech selling person dont have a clue in what they are doing, and gl with that its hopeless to explan them things they dont understand,
see lowest i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM pcs spec runs this better then your faster pc.
thats should be explanations enough. ( in other words you dont have game requirements ) this has nothing to do with me or my reply, truth point at itself. take it up with bethesda, but im sure you wont like the reply.

im sure a english person have right threase with alot of nothing, your pc is faster that dont mean they can fix missing multicore requirements and its calculation.
and im sure alot of playes know this , and yet many dont and this game engine is build on it.
Last edited by Iceira; Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:46am
hawkeye Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:47am 
The 1050ti is likely to be the reason. It's about 2/3 the performance of the recommended 780. The i5 10500 is a lot better than the i7 4790 (assuming that it is an i5 not the i3 10100, which is better too).

You can check this by installing msi afterburner and watching the load graphs of the cpu threads and gpu.

Try reducing the graphic settings.
Last edited by hawkeye; Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:53am
Iceira Jan 17, 2022 @ 3:14am 
as hawkeye say yes even the gpu settings matter, but if user already is at lowest and he still micro lag, as i said we cant fix what he cpu core do. and it wont change whatever card he test it with. , be happy this game dont have higher game requirement then them older 2.8ghz cpu then alot of user will be in trouble.

but Bethesada is not stupid that just mean alot of buyers wont get it to work. or have game requirements

you could say they have optimize it for 3ghz games and to be sure all 3ghz that why 2,8ghz is required.
Last edited by Iceira; Jan 17, 2022 @ 3:18am
Shadowrun Jan 17, 2022 @ 1:23pm 
people want to say it's your hardware but here's a couple things i could suggest to you that might help on the software end of things:

+ Try disabling steam overlay VR and cloud sync under game properties. in steam, click:
LIBRARY -> HOME -> FALLOUT 4 -> MANAGE (SETTINGS) -> PROPERTIES -> GENERAL ->
uncheck the boxes that say:
- use desktop game theatre while steam VR is active
- keep games saves in the steam cloud for fallout 4

+ if you run microsoft one drive, try disabling it while you play and see if it helps. some users have reported problems associated with one drive.

+ if you have too many save game files, try deleting some of them.

+ Disable Antivirus Software

+ try validating the game files using the steam validator

+ try adjusting the max frame rate to 60 fps in your graphics card settings

+ try running the game at the same resolution as your desktop resolution. go in to settings in the launcher to change it. fallout also wants to run at 1920x1080 resolution so you could try running it at that. another thing people do that sometimes works is running the game in a full-screen window (windowed-mode)+ try running the game at the same resolution as your desktop resolution. go in to settings in the launcher to change it.

+ try updating your graphics drivers
it commonly means your hardware can't run the game, or doesn't support it. usually, it just means you need to update your drivers.
* if you are using an nVidia card, make sure you have the 'Weapon Debris' setting off
Simple Man Jan 17, 2022 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
you have a I3 thats why.

even old crap pc with I5 or i7 run it better.
Those 4 cores and 8 threads at 4.4 ghz are faster than even 7th gen i7s, and here you are saying that i3 is the reason fallout 4 stutters. Thats nice.

The 1050ti is just as fine, i've recently tested/played on cards like 950, 960, 1060 and 1070, the 960 being right next to what 1050ti should do, but with only half the video memory, and again, i played at 1080p ultra settings (godrays and weapon debris off) with with some 1k texture packs and NAC weather mod, that carries its own (not very heavy) weight. Plays absolutely fine, no stutter, just not 60 fps at all times.

The game tends to constantly stream textures off of your disk, it might be the disk with the issue, maybe its (too) slow, perhaps its old too and has some bad sectors? if you find that the disk is perfectly fine, or have the game on an SSD, then maybe just take to the above suggestions, and look at software.

Your hardware is fine and perfectly capable at that point. Feel free to cap framerates too, like someone else said, you don't really want a + after the 60 number.
Iceira Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by STP:
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
you have a I3 thats why.

even old crap pc with I5 or i7 run it better.
Those 4 cores and 8 threads at 4.4 ghz are faster than even 7th gen i7s, and here you are saying that i3 is the reason fallout 4 stutters. Thats nice.

The 1050ti is just as fine, i've recently tested/played on cards like 950, 960, 1060 and 1070, the 960 being right next to what 1050ti should do, but with only half the video memory, and again, i played at 1080p ultra settings (godrays and weapon debris off) with with some 1k texture packs and NAC weather mod, that carries its own (not very heavy) weight. Plays absolutely fine, no stutter, just not 60 fps at all times.

The game tends to constantly stream textures off of your disk, it might be the disk with the issue, maybe its (too) slow, perhaps its old too and has some bad sectors? if you find that the disk is perfectly fine, or have the game on an SSD, then maybe just take to the above suggestions, and look at software.

Your hardware is fine and perfectly capable at that point. Feel free to cap framerates too, like someone else said, you don't really want a + after the 60 number.

you still igonre older pc dont have lag issue not even the worst pc minimum spec has micro lag, and yet you keep going how fast hes pc is , how about you fix hes problem before make victory its still a I3 and he lag according to him not even i7 as recommend has lag.

you can find several other pc with i5 and i7 and i9 they dont lag i bet.

as i told you OP ASK Behesda why you lag.
they made the game and know game requirements, as we said you have newer pc and yet it dont work for you.
Last edited by Iceira; Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:46pm
Chew Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
you have a I3 thats why.

even old crap pc with I5 or i7 run it better.
i know many dont know it, and why so many forget basic info from the past.

we had a saying you have a bambus rocket we use to say that to fast 250cc MC thats seem to fit next gen pc that is I3 then all other games goes I5 or I7 as game requirement
and now you want us to tell you what's wrong. thats the problem in this world, you have issue with multi core game requirements, your pc cant handle it so it make allocated calculation and try to keep up.

im sure i will get alot of heat from this or angry post , let me put it this way you bought it now you have to live with it.

try see this the other way around , atleast someone told you this.

if you need game requirement here it is
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

thats your problem here, alot of tech selling person dont have a clue in what they are doing, and gl with that its hopeless to explan them things they dont understand,
see lowest i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM pcs spec runs this better then your faster pc.
thats should be explanations enough. ( in other words you dont have game requirements ) this has nothing to do with me or my reply, truth point at itself. take it up with bethesda, but im sure you wont like the reply.

im sure a english person have right threase with alot of nothing, your pc is faster that dont mean they can fix missing multicore requirements and its calculation.
and im sure alot of playes know this , and yet many dont and this game engine is build on it.
Dude, just shut up. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about when it comes to computer hardware. For starters, you could of took 30 seconds of googling the recommended processor, which is a decade old, 4 core, 4 thread. His CPU isn't even 2 years old, with 6 cores and 12 threads. The base speed on his is higher, and the turbo frequency on his is significantly higher. Just because it says 3, doesn't mean it's worse then if it says i5 or i7. Learn some hardware, and if you don't want to, at least spend a couple seconds googling. He blows the recommended out of the water.
Last edited by Chew; Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:50pm
Iceira Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Chew:
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
you have a I3 thats why.

even old crap pc with I5 or i7 run it better.
i know many dont know it, and why so many forget basic info from the past.

we had a saying you have a bambus rocket we use to say that to fast 250cc MC thats seem to fit next gen pc that is I3 then all other games goes I5 or I7 as game requirement
and now you want us to tell you what's wrong. thats the problem in this world, you have issue with multi core game requirements, your pc cant handle it so it make allocated calculation and try to keep up.

im sure i will get alot of heat from this or angry post , let me put it this way you bought it now you have to live with it.

try see this the other way around , atleast someone told you this.

if you need game requirement here it is
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
Storage: 30 GB available space

thats your problem here, alot of tech selling person dont have a clue in what they are doing, and gl with that its hopeless to explan them things they dont understand,
see lowest i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM pcs spec runs this better then your faster pc.
thats should be explanations enough. ( in other words you dont have game requirements ) this has nothing to do with me or my reply, truth point at itself. take it up with bethesda, but im sure you wont like the reply.

im sure a english person have right threase with alot of nothing, your pc is faster that dont mean they can fix missing multicore requirements and its calculation.
and im sure alot of playes know this , and yet many dont and this game engine is build on it.
Dude, just shut up. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about when it comes to computer hardware. For starters, you could of took 30 seconds of googling the recommended processor, which is a decade old, 4 core, 4 thread. His CPU isn't even 2 years old, with 6 cores and 12 threads. The base speed on his is higher, and the turbo frequency on his is significantly higher. Just because it says 3, doesn't mean it's worse then if it says i5 or i7. Learn some hardware, and if you don't want to, at least spend a couple seconds googling. He blows the recommended out of the water.

and yet he micro lag, older pc dont lag , when do you want to read it , hes pc has the issue not even the old pc from 10 years ago lag
Shadowrun Jan 17, 2022 @ 2:57pm 
you can view my specs on my profile page now. my PC is far lower than most of yours, yet my system runs this game fine at 40-60 FPS. Your systems, being newer and better than mine, you would think, should run this game even better.

but the problem you discover with fallout 4 is that it was like hard-coded for a 2014 PC. so in order to get it to work right on a 2020+ PC you kind of need to dumb your new PC down some. just for fallout 4. you gotta limit framerates, shadows and godrays or your new PC gets carried away and starts pushing the game engine farther than it was meant to go. farther than it is capable of going.

so we use our graphics card software and INI settings and mods to help fit our PC's power into the cute little fallout 4 engine. and if you don't do that. if you try to leave your system wide open for fallout 4. you get micro lags and physics errors and dialogue mismatch and kepress lags and even CTD's or black screens
Last edited by Shadowrun; Jan 17, 2022 @ 3:02pm
Simple Man Jan 17, 2022 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
you still igonre older pc dont have lag issue not even the worst pc minimum spec has micro lag, and yet you keep going how fast hes pc is , how about you fix hes problem before make victory its still a I3 and he lag according to him not even i7 as recommend has lag.

you can find several other pc with i5 and i7 and i9 they dont lag i bet.

as i told you OP ASK Behesda why you lag.
they made the game and know game requirements, as we said you have newer pc and yet it dont work for you.
I cant be bothered fueling this much further, but you're sorta the reason why people will come on steam for hardware related issues and usually come out all the stupider without a solution to their problems.

Among the 3 CPUs ive tested FO4 on recently, was a pentium G6400, a 50$ processor with 2 cores and 4 threads, running at 4 Ghz. There was no stuttering, this verified not with my eyes or imagination, but MSI Afterburner reading frametimes via a line graph, there were no spikes, there was no stuttering.

An intel i3 10300 blows FO4 requirements right out of the water, as it even outdoes i7 7700 processors. If you can't be bothered owning, testing, heck even googling about the hardware, then i just assume you post out of bad faith, and you'll harm alot more than you help, here and elsewhere. Take care.
Iceira Jan 18, 2022 @ 12:25am 
See what did i tell you OP , alot of talk and noone here has a clue why you micro lag
and more odd older pc dont have that issue. ( if you have not made mistake in setup at that pc. then most will say sense all is newer at that pc, and if you cant play game at lowest resolutionand option with no lag noone here can help you, again we assume that pc is update in all driver and bios and chipset ( its simple the way things is handle at i3 internal cpu instruction as i try to tell everyone.
and ppl keep igonore old toaster as i5 or i7 dont have microlag. ( this simple compare and why i? matters, ) ohh wait did i not give OP advice, i did not say he like it, ask Bethesda then they made the game and its requirements not any of you that think you know how things works.

that right take care , learn to read , noone here get it a faster pc got trolble then a deadbeat old toaster got no microlag on minimum pc spec requiements
hawkeye Jan 18, 2022 @ 3:19am 
Originally posted by Iceira W10:
See what did i tell you OP , alot of talk and noone here has a clue why you micro lag
and more odd older pc dont have that issue. ( if you have not made mistake in setup at that pc. then most will say sense all is newer at that pc, and if you cant play game at lowest resolutionand option with no lag noone here can help you, again we assume that pc is update in all driver and bios and chipset ( its simple the way things is handle at i3 internal cpu instruction as i try to tell everyone.
and ppl keep igonore old toaster as i5 or i7 dont have microlag. ( this simple compare and why i? matters, ) ohh wait did i not give OP advice, i did not say he like it, ask Bethesda then they made the game and its requirements not any of you that think you know how things works.

that right take care , learn to read , noone here get it a faster pc got trolble then a deadbeat old toaster got no microlag on minimum pc spec requiements

This post is like your other ones. You haven't got a clue.

OP's complaint is stuttering. Lag and stuttering are two different things. I'll let you find out what they are and what causes them but one is input and the other is output. Two different issues.
Last edited by hawkeye; Jan 18, 2022 @ 3:22am
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