Never install a mod...

[Xenon The Noble]

... where the mod maker doesn't allow comments.
Just saying, something is very wrong with the mod and it will ruin your game.

[Chaosium]

Depends. When you write a full explanation of what your mod does and half of the comments is "what does this mod do" and "how to install not working???", the other half being entitled demands, it make you seriously consider removing comments altogether

[trey]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Depends. When you write a full explanation of what your mod does and half of the comments is "what does this mod do" and "how to install not working???", the other half being entitled demands, it make you seriously consider removing comments altogether

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[Xenon The Noble]

I have two mods, both of them pull the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trick where your Player Character is, with no explanation or game play, teleported without any armor or weapons into a prison or slavery. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. These guys think it's cleaver and you're stupid because you don't know their idiotic trick to keep them from fudging up your game.
They don't allow comments because when people call them on this ♥♥♥♥, their little egos are hurt. I'm not spending hours of game play with their moronic mods installed just to have them waste all my time with their jackassery. Even Bethesda doesn't pull that ♥♥♥♥.
It's all my mods and a few proven mods from now on.
Edit: Neither (there's actually three of them but I've not played the 3rd) of these two poorly written mods allow comments. Good ideas, love the concept, but the mechanics get juvenile.

[Aazo5]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Depends. When you write a full explanation of what your mod does and half of the comments is "what does this mod do" and "how to install not working???", the other half being entitled demands, it make you seriously consider removing comments altogether

Removing them will make your mod an automatic no-go for most like myself. That's just an annoying reality of mod making that you gotta get over.

[Xenon The Noble]

Nexus makes it so that you can contribute to support mod makers. There's an incentive there to push broken mods and to not let the word out that the mod has serious problems. Lots of mods sound great, and they write up addresses common complaints about the vanilla game, but this thing where your hard won legendary items are stripped from your player character and you're locked up in a cell with not even a chance to pick the lock is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. That's just stupid. Then rather than address the issue, they shut down comments because people complain about it, and that means less $$.
Done with it! No comments, no download. Thanks for the good mods, but f-U if you make a mod that ruins my game and wastes a lot of my time.

[trey]

if you don't feel like smashing your head against the wall to figure out how to escape, they have walkthrough videos on youtube, if not on the mod page...i'm pretty sure there's already an answer on the quest log page.....

but there's nothing wrong with the mods. you don't need a bobby pin to get out of there

[Xenon The Noble]

If I wanted to watch YouTube videos where they demonstrate their wonderful game ideas, I'd watch YouTube videos instead of playing.
But that's no excuse for game-wrecking mods - that you need to watch their YouTube videos to play so they get paid by YouTube

Edit: What's more, having you watch their YT videos as a way to get paid and not allowing people to know that by shutting down the comments is just ... BAD
Just say it in the description: these mods have gameplay you're not likely to solve and will ruin your game unless you watch or long, drawn out YouTube Video for the solution.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

If I wanted to watch YouTube videos where they demonstrate their wonderful game ideas, I'd watch YouTube videos instead of playing.
But that's no excuse for game-wrecking mods - that you need to watch their YouTube videos to play so they get paid by YouTube

Edit: What's more, having you watch their YT videos as a way to get paid and not allowing people to know that by shutting down the comments is just ... BAD
Just say it in the description: these mods have gameplay you're not likely to solve and will ruin your game unless you watch or long, drawn out YouTube Video for the solution.

p much

a couple did mod showcases. Those show how good the mods are. But tbh i think most broken mods are already out the window. Nexus is a dictatorship for mods but in a way it weeds out the quick cash grab "mod" """makers""".

[JonExx]

Now you got me curious!
Which mods are you talking about?

[Xenon The Noble]

Outcast and remnants: As part of the quest you go to visit this vault. You go through the door that the quest indicts you should go next and you get stripped of your good weapons and armor and locked in a cell. No, you can't lock pick your way out. discussion is disabled!
Depravity; same thing, you start the quest, and right away you get spirited away and enslaved. No weapons, no armor. People noticed a bug where the mod doesn't give your items back after you complete the quest and someone made a mod for the mod so you can keep your items. discussion is disabled and this mod depends upon O&R.

Imagine getting lucky and having a legendary, or even a hard to get weapon, and having a mod take it from you with no way to get it back, thus borking your game. That sucks. Besides, you don't care to play a game where you ♥♥♥♥ around trying to figure out what cleaver little idea for a jail break that the modder had in mind. Bad enough if it's an ego thing for the modder, but if they shut down comments so you can't ask for a clue that's even worse. You had no idea that this "great" mod was going to bork the game. That's just not fair! And if it's to get you to watch some monetized youtube channel where they drone on and on for 30 minutes to tell you what should only take 30 seconds, then all the worse!

[Splattergutz]

I agree with the OP +1

We should have a forum or thread where we can review their mods on steam.

However, this should always be done when keeping in mind that most people who are doing these mods are doing them for free.

There are people who do mods to advertise their own skills and some are very skilled and deserve recognition. But they are the minority. Most do it to make FO4 a better game for all of us and we shouldn't forget that.

But I agree about them not commenting or blocking comments. Once they do that, I dump their mod!

[JonExx]

See, I was wondering if you were talking about these mods (because they have these imprisoning thing at some point), but then I thought:

"No, can't be those, because these are some of the most fun mods ever...and they have a discord where they discuss stuff, so there's no blocking of comments, just a re-direction.
And most importantly: These mods don't steal your stuff. You get everything back as soon as you solved the puzzles and even I - and I'm probably the number one worst gamer of all times - managed to solve them without youtube assistance."

Not sure how new you are to the game, but if you are new to it I understand your frustration when suddenly being thrown in a cage without much ado and explanation.
I'm remembering the "wtf???" quite well when it happened to me.

So, these are mods for people who rescued Preston for the 12th time already and have done everything in the Wasteland twice and more.

And if mod authors explain every tiny detail of their mod in length on their Nexus-page (including some walk-throughs and hints) and if they then have to care about hundreds of pretty repetitive posts and questions - that could be avoided if people would take the time and read the description - their move to at least channel these questions to a place with much better communication features is understandable to me.

[Xenon The Noble]

Originally posted by Splattergutz:

I agree with the OP +1

We should have a forum or thread where we can review their mods on steam.

However, this should always be done when keeping in mind that most people who are doing these mods are doing them for free.

There are people who do mods to advertise their own skills and some are very skilled and deserve recognition. But they are the minority. Most do it to make FO4 a better game for all of us and we shouldn't forget that.

But I agree about them not commenting or blocking comments. Once they do that, I dump their mod!

Well, they're good mods up until they just, out of nowhere, make your player character disappear then re-appear in a prison cell with no way to pick the lock and some of your best items gone. Don't crash the game, are generally more imagintive than the Bethesda story and better versed in the lore, makes it seem like it fits with the vanilla game...
But robbing my character and making me play for 30 minutes trying to find a way out is game busting. It's the opposite of fun. And they go about it stupidly! You just disappear and then re-appear somewhere else.
I'd pay for a good mod, but even at free, this is overpriced.

[Xenon The Noble]

Originally posted by JonExx:

See, I was wondering if you were talking about these mods (because they have these imprisoning thing at some point), but then I thought:

"No, can't be those, because these are some of the most fun mods ever...and they have a discord where they discuss stuff, so there's no blocking of comments, just a re-direction.
And most importantly: These mods don't steal your stuff. You get everything back as soon as you solved the puzzles and even I - and I'm probably the number one worst gamer of all times - managed to solve them without youtube assistance."

Not sure how new you are to the game, but if you are new to it I understand your frustration when suddenly being thrown in a cage without much ado and explanation.
I'm remembering the "wtf???" quite well when it happened to me.

So, these are mods for people who rescued Preston for the 12th time already and have done everything in the Wasteland twice and more.

And if mod authors explain every tiny detail of their mod in length on their Nexus-page (including some walk-throughs and hints) and if they then have to care about hundreds of pretty repetitive posts and questions - that could be avoided if people would take the time and read the description - their move to at least channel these questions to a place with much better communication features is understandable to me.

I don't see how having a discord channel makes it excusable. They borked my game. I took the mod description at face value and invested hours of playtime with this mod installed. Yes, I'm stupid I guess because I just quit when I couldn't figure it out. ♥♥♥♥ me, right? It's a great mod until it borks your game and screw me for not jumping through hoops to join a discord, expecting a warning, and saying THAT PART OF THE MOD'S GAME PLAY IS SO CRAPPY IT MAKES THE MOD NOT WORTH IT.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Originally posted by Splattergutz:

I agree with the OP +1

We should have a forum or thread where we can review their mods on steam.

However, this should always be done when keeping in mind that most people who are doing these mods are doing them for free.

There are people who do mods to advertise their own skills and some are very skilled and deserve recognition. But they are the minority. Most do it to make FO4 a better game for all of us and we shouldn't forget that.

But I agree about them not commenting or blocking comments. Once they do that, I dump their mod!

Well, they're good mods up until they just, out of nowhere, make your player character disappear then re-appear in a prison cell with no way to pick the lock and some of your best items gone. Don't crash the game, are generally more imagintive than the Bethesda story and better versed in the lore, makes it seem like it fits with the vanilla game...
But robbing my character and making me play for 30 minutes trying to find a way out is game busting. It's the opposite of fun. And they go about it stupidly! You just disappear and then re-appear somewhere else.
I'd pay for a good mod, but even at free, this is overpriced.

i always list mods that can conflict with a lot of stuff enabled.